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    Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Yasiin Bey, better known by his previous stage name Mos Def, can’t handle a Gitmo force-feeding, but he’s willing to give it a try. The rapper and actor agreed to participate in a project to demonstrate what it’s like to be a Guantanamo Bay prisoner on a hunger strike.UK-based human rights group Reprieve teamed up with Bafta award-winning director Asif Kapadia to produce the video and published it on the Guardian website today. More than 100 of the 166 detainees at Guantanamo have undertaken a hunger strike since February, and the facility force-feeds about 45 of them on a regular basis.
    With the approach of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month during which Muslims abstain from food and water during the day, Gitmo critics have renewed calls for the prison to end the force-feedings. Guantanamo authorities have defended the practice as “humane, high-quality medical care to preserve life and health,” and say they will engage in force-feeding at night during Ramadan to respect the daytime fast.
    In the graphic video, volunteer doctors strap Bey, clad in what has now become an iconic orange jumpsuit, to a restraint chair and stick a tube up his nose and down toward his stomach. Bey gasps and moans as two additional men force him still.
    When the doctors prepare to insert the tube a second time, Bey pleads in genuine anxiety.
    “Stop it, please! Stop it!” he shouts, before an off camera voice calls for the doctors to end the simulation.


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    All i got to say is this is disgusting and put me in distress.


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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    I have a lot of respect for Mos Def and his music. My respect for him has grown after this.
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Oh please.

    The actor and musician formerly known as Mos Def deserves an academy award for this. He really pulled out all the stops.

    I've been intubated while awake. It's not exactly pleasant but it's that big a deal either.

    But I guess if you're gullible enough to fall for this nonsense then it's served it's purpose.

    As the man says, there's a sucker born every minute.

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Okay...so? It's an uncomfortable and possibly painful experience.

    What are peoples preferences exactly?

    Shall we let those who go on hunger strike perish from lack of food? Is that preferred? If they do that, will the U.S. be called heartless and violators of human rights by letting these people starve to death?

    Shall we instead let anyone who goes "I'm going on a hunger strike" go? Simply free anyone who says "hunger strike"?

    Exactly what are you suggesting is done instead, because frankly this looks like nothing but a "I don't like GITMO, so I don't care what they do, I'm going to find a way to criticize them and demonize them for it".

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    I just watched ZERO DARK THIRTY and while this is a fictionalized account, it does show just how uncivilized torture is and while I'm glad the long term result was the execution of UBL, I'm sorry my country egregiously violated the basic laws of decency.

    Did UBL need to die? Yes. Was it worth dismissing the Geneva Convention for? I don't know. I can easily understand torture on the battlefield but long term? It's troubling.

    Looks like GITMO will be forever. Billions of dollars and loss of respect is the price we pay to keep just a very few people off the battlefield.

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Okay...so? It's an uncomfortable and possibly painful experience.

    What are peoples preferences exactly?

    Shall we let those who go on hunger strike perish from lack of food? Is that preferred? If they do that, will the U.S. be called heartless and violators of human rights by letting these people starve to death?

    Shall we instead let anyone who goes "I'm going on a hunger strike" go? Simply free anyone who says "hunger strike"?

    Exactly what are you suggesting is done instead, because frankly this looks like nothing but a "I don't like GITMO, so I don't care what they do, I'm going to find a way to criticize them and demonize them for it".
    It's typical "damned if you do, damned if you don't" from liberals. If they're force-fed to stay alive, the guards are heartless. If they die from malnutrition, the guards are heartless.

    Some people just need to be offended, or they don't know what to do with themselves.

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Okay...so? It's an uncomfortable and possibly painful experience.

    What are peoples preferences exactly?

    Shall we let those who go on hunger strike perish from lack of food? Is that preferred? If they do that, will the U.S. be called heartless and violators of human rights by letting these people starve to death?

    Shall we instead let anyone who goes "I'm going on a hunger strike" go? Simply free anyone who says "hunger strike"?

    Exactly what are you suggesting is done instead, because frankly this looks like nothing but a "I don't like GITMO, so I don't care what they do, I'm going to find a way to criticize them and demonize them for it".
    The outrage comes from the misguided belief that those who are locked up at GITMO are in no way a threat to America. They truly believe that these people are NOT hell bent on killing us.
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    The outrage comes from the misguided belief that those who are locked up at GITMO are in no way a threat to America. They truly believe that these people are NOT hell bent on killing us.
    But here's the thing...

    Let's say 90% AREN'T a threat and have done nothing wrong. That suggests at least 10% still need incarceration of some sort.

    If those 10% went on a "hunger strike" what exactly should be done? Let them starve to death? Force feed them? Etc.

    Even if someones issue is that GITMO is just inherently "wrong", it still begs the question of what exactly they expect the US to do with people...even just people the individual feels is JUSTLY incarcerated...who go on "hunger strikes".

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I've been intubated while awake. It's not exactly pleasant but it's that big a deal either.
    Of course its not as big of a deal when you are drugged.
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Let them starve themselves to death

    *&^% em

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