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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Mos Def, A.K.A. Douchebag

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Apparently I don't. The years are eating away at my memory. Would you please furnish a link? Thank you.


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    Do you remember the incident in 2006? I would hate for one of are servicemen or women to be tortured.

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    People DO realize there is a huge difference between being intubate when you are cooperative and being intubated against your will, don't they? If these people who are being held without charges wish to die from fasting then let them. If we are going to deprive them of liberty without due process the least we can do is grant them autonomy over their own bodies. Yep, it means they will die. yep, that will make us look very bad. I guess we should have thought about that before locking people up in that place without hard evidence of wrong doing.

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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And what about those that are there for a legitimate reason in the first place?

    Should the US be force feeding them when they go on hunger strike? Or should they let them die from the hunger strike? And do you think that it's fair to condemn the US in either instance in such cases?
    As stated before, its damned if you do and damned if you don't. The US govt put itself in this situation by 1.) Offering rewards and accepting prisoners from Afghan/Pakistani forces and 2.) Not putting any that are clearly terrorists on trial.
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What evidence do you have that they are not?
    I already presented the evidence that many of them are unjustifiably detained. But we are a republic, not a dictatorship. The burden of proof should be on the ones doing the detaining.


    Why would the US Government hold these people there indefinitely? What would be the motive for that.
    Fear.

    Do you think Gitmo is a social club or something?

    Tell me something. Are you Pro Choice?
    WTF?
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Okay, fine, let's take what you say as a given. So UNTIL that happens what do you propose we do in the event of hunger strikes? On a parallel note, isn't the hunger strike just a variation of "I'm going to hold my breath until I'm blue in the face unless you give me what I want"? Doesn't work for the countless number of children who have threatened their parents with it, why would any adult think it will work here?
    If thats the case then force-feedings are unnecessary
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    Re: Mos Def, a.k.a. Yasiin Bey, Submits to Gitmo-Style Force-Feeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Terrorism isn't a crime.
    Dude, just stop.
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