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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    The face isn't exactly the best place to throw a punch at someone whose ass you aren't supposed to be beating. That being said, it's clearly police brutality... Which is why he got fired.
    Are you kidding me? Should all violent criminals be found not guilty if they have been fired?
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    St. Louis police officer found not guilty of hitting handcuffed teen : News

    As I suspected, the reality is a bit more complex than the slanted OP headline. The judge didn't "refuse" to watch the video, it wasn't allowed in to evidence. Read the link to find out why.

    Also, the teen was twice arrested by cops in possession of drugs and guns. In the videotaped incident in question the teen had turned a gun on the officers. But of course you don't see that part.
    So if there are prior crimes, that justifies assault?


    The teen was not acting threateningly in anyway during the time the officer struck him. Claims of self-defense are ludicrous. Officers are only supposed to use force to subdue a threat or non-compliance. Striking the teen at a later date is not self-defense, it is nothing more than retaliation. Earlier behavior does not justify assault by the officer.

    Then there is still the case of Roorda, a state representative, who thinks that video should not be used to hold officers accountable.
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

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    St. Louis police officer found not guilty of hitting handcuffed teen : News

    As I suspected, the reality is a bit more complex than the slanted OP headline. The judge didn't "refuse" to watch the video, it wasn't allowed in to evidence. Read the link to find out why.

    Also, the teen was twice arrested by cops in possession of drugs and guns. In the videotaped incident in question the teen had turned a gun on the officers. But of course you don't see that part.
    Yet never charged with a criminal offense? Something very wrong is going on here. It would appear that nobody cares about justice, simply playing legal games.
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    But the video never made it into evidence because the law required prosecutors to authenticate it with someone who had personal knowledge of the events. Bruce refused to testify against himself, on the same constitutional grounds as the teen.
    So what was wrong with the other officer present testifying? This case makes no sense at all.
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? Should all violent criminals be found not guilty if they have been fired?
    No, I'm not kidding. It's right there in black and white, he did something stupid and got punished for it. At the end of the day, all he did was punch someone in the face. I've done the same, and all I got was a night in jail. Same for a lot of people and it's "lol, he mad". A cop does it and you people break out the pitchforks and torches looking for a new witch to burn.
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    St. Louis police officer found not guilty of hitting handcuffed teen : News

    As I suspected, the reality is a bit more complex than the slanted OP headline. The judge didn't "refuse" to watch the video, it wasn't allowed in to evidence. Read the link to find out why.

    Also, the teen was twice arrested by cops in possession of drugs and guns. In the videotaped incident in question the teen had turned a gun on the officers. But of course you don't see that part.
    Thanks for the link and the clarification. The reality is complex—the kid, the judge, the legislator/union rep, and etc. and the ubiquitous camera catching the cop’s assault. From your link:

    Prosecutors allege it shows Bruce hitting the teen unprompted. Bruce’s attorney, Joe Hogan, planned to argue it showed his client reacting in self-defense when the teen lunged at him, after earlier trying to turn a gun on Bruce’s partner, Jacob Fowler.

    St. Louis police officer found not guilty of hitting handcuffed teen : News

    What I see in the video (at OP’s link) is the cop “hitting the teen unprompted.” What I hear is somebody calling the kid a “mofo” and somebody laughing.

    I don’t want a cop like that working in my community. Really unprofessional. I mean, the kid was handcuffed. Even if he had priors, that’s no justification for the little “tune-up.” And the cop laughed before he did it.

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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    I'm going to play the devil's advocate for sec: what happened prior the video, during the arrest, etc that caused the situation to become so emotionally charged?
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by mtguy8787 View Post
    Judge Finds Cop Not Guilty of Assault after Refusing to Watch Video of Assault - | Intellihub.com

    Watch the video, and see what Roorda and the cop say about the suspect's behavior.

    All 3 -- the judge, the cop, and Roorda, should be made an example of.
    that should be one fired judge
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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm going to play the devil's advocate for sec: what happened prior the video, during the arrest, etc that caused the situation to become so emotionally charged?
    Why does it matter? The guy's in handcuffs and emerging from a vehicle. Cop just wanted to get a lick in from what I saw. The grownups are supposed to have a grip.

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    Re: Judge refuses to watch police brutality video, lets cop off

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Why does it matter? The guy's in handcuffs and emerging from a vehicle. Cop just wanted to get a lick in from what I saw. The grownups are supposed to have a grip.
    It might. We don't know.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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