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    Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    CARACAS, July 5 (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro offered asylum to former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden on Friday in defiance of Washington, which is demanding his arrest for divulging details of secret U.S. spy programs.
    "In the name of America's dignity ... I have decided to offer humanitarian asylum to Edward Snowden," Maduro told a military parade marking Venezuela's independence day.

    "He is a young man who has told the truth, in the spirit of rebellion, about the United States spying on the whole world."


    Read more @: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3552730.html

    I hope he accepts and i hope he finds a way to get to Venezuela!


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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Not me. I hope he's brought back to the United States and put on trial. Running away and hiding is cowardly. If he feels this strongly about the wrongs the government was doing, then he should be willing to stand up and fight them.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Not me. I hope he's brought back to the United States and put on trial. Running away and hiding is cowardly. If he feels this strongly about the wrongs the government was doing, then he should be willing to stand up and fight them.
    Four questions for you:

    Do sincerely believe that Snowdon can get an open and honest fair trial in America?

    Who do you think is more dangerous to Americans? James Clapper or Edward Snowdon?

    Who do you believe is more likely to be truthful to the American People? James Clapper or Edward Snowden?

    Who has committed a felony? James Clapper or Edward Snowden?










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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Four questions for you:

    Do sincerely believe that Snowdon can get an open and honest fair trial in America?
    As much as any person can.

    Who do you think is more dangerous to Americans? James Clapper or Edward Snowdon?
    Don't know, don't care. Irrelevant.

    Who do you believe is more likely to be truthful to the American People? James Clapper or Edward Snowden?
    Don't know, don't care. They both have their agendas.

    Who has committed a felony? James Clapper or Edward Snowden?
    Why is it an either/or?

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Running away and hiding is cowardly.
    No, the cowardly thing to do would have been to ignore his conscience and remain quiet so he could keep his six-figure salary and cushy life.
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    I hope he accepts and i hope he finds a way to get to Venezuela! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Iceland seems to have fallen through. They were going to have a vote on making him a citizen before they went off for the Summer recess but have surprising voted not to do this.

    Snowden has applied secretly to six other countries as he says he wants to stop the US from intimidating them.

    And how can he travel if even Presidential planes are illegally searched and European countries will not give airspace to a plane that could be hiding him. Spain has said she was told Snowden was definitely on that plane.

    When refueling of the plane of a head of State is refused which could have resulted in an air crash and loss of life, how the hell in this world, bought and sold by the US, is he going to get safe passage anywhere?

    Maybe the UN will need to say that by the Geneva Convention he needs political asylum and escort him if need be?
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Iceland seems to have fallen through. They were going to have a vote on making him a citizen before they went off for the Summer recess but have surprising voted not to do this.

    Snowden has applied secretly to six other countries as he says he wants to stop the US from intimidating them.

    And how can he travel if even Presidential planes are illegally searched and European countries will not give airspace to a plane that could be hiding him. Spain has said she was told Snowden was definitely on that plane.

    When refueling of the plane of a head of State is refused which could have resulted in an air crash and loss of life, how the hell in this world, bought and sold by the US, is he going to get safe passage anywhere?

    Maybe the UN will need to say that by the Geneva Convention he needs political asylum and escort him if need be?
    "...There are no direct commercial flights between Moscow and Caracas, and the usual route involves changing planes in Havana. It is not clear if the Cuban authorities would let him transit.

    Given the dramatic grounding in Vienna of the Bolivian president's plane this week over suspicions that Snowden was onboard, using European airspace could prove problematic.

    One alternative flight plan would involve an aircraft taking off from Moscow, refueling in Vladivostok, and then continuing east over the Pacific to South America....."

    Venezuela offers asylum to U.S. fugitive Snowden

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Not me. I hope he's brought back to the United States and put on trial. Running away and hiding is cowardly. If he feels this strongly about the wrongs the government was doing, then he should be willing to stand up and fight them.
    Cowards don't speak out against tyrannical government.

    How would he fight a government that can legally incarcerate and torture its own citizens, without the possibility of appeal or due process of any kind whatsoever?

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    As much as any person can.

    Don't know, don't care. Irrelevant.

    Don't know, don't care. They both have their agendas.

    Why is it an either/or?
    Oh, right. My bad. I assumed you were being serious.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    What I find stunning about the Snowden case is how much of a canary in the coal mines it has served with regards to our respect for privacy. We think nothing of entities like Mark Zuckerberg and Google selling our personal information to corporations, and condemn Snowden for alerting us to flagrant violations of our rights by our government. Where the hell are our priorities?

    And calling us Snowden a "coward" is laughable. I wonder how many here who label him thus would so willingly sacrifice their home, family and freedom to stand up for their principles.

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