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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Ah, so you're another one who thinks Einstein should have stayed and faced Nazi justice in Germany?
    Nobody thinks that. Einstein was a victim fleeing to a free country to escape illegitimate persecution for his religion. Snowden is a criminal fleeing to an unfree country to escape legitimate prosecution for his crime of leaking classified information.

    Big difference, for anybody intellectually honest enough to see it.

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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    He hasn't defected. I agree he should be cuaght and prosecuted, but he hasn't defected by the very definition of it.
    Yes he has, by the mere act of seeking Asylum with Venezuela to escape US justice he is a defector.
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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    To defect TO a country one must take up residence in that country.

    de·fect
    1. To disown allegiance to one's country and take up residence in another

    defection - definition of defection by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    How dishonest can you get! Did you see the second sense of the word, just beneAth the one you selective quotes? Are you incompetent or lying?

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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nobody thinks that.
    Really? Read the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696
    Did he knowingly choose to break laws and then run away? Then yes.
    Post #290 for context (bottom of page 29).



    Snowden is a criminal fleeing to an unfree country to escape legitimate prosecution for his crime of leaking classified information.
    I don't believe the prosecution is legitimate as I think the program was unconstitutional. Snowden is a whistleblower and should be protected as such.
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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    How dishonest can you get! Did you see the second sense of the word, just beneAth the one you selective quotes? Are you incompetent or lying?
    Crow calling the raven black?

    You clearly stated that Snowden defected TO Venezuela. You are obviously wrong.
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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That's a great point. He's defecting to Venezuela to protest US infringements of liberty.
    To claim that he has defected to Venezuela is about as accurate as saying he has defected to Mars.
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    Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Ah, so you're another one who thinks Einstein should have stayed and faced Nazi justice in Germany?
    I don't recall ever saying that; for someone who's busting balls around here for putting out false info, you seem to be forgetting yourself when ditching out advice...

    I think that regardless of the evidence and common sense, those who view Snowden as a hero will never budge on how they see him. Their bias towards the government or rules etc will hinder logic

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    Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Really? Read the following:
    Post #290 for context (bottom of page 29).





    I don't believe the prosecution is legitimate as I think the program was unconstitutional. Snowden is a whistleblower and should be protected as such.
    What whistleblower protocol did he follow? The answer: NONE therefore you can't claim those protections under the law. What YOU think, well that's up to you...

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    Re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    I think that regardless of the evidence and common sense, those who view Snowden as a hero will never budge on how they see him. Their bias towards the government or rules etc will hinder logic
    Funny.

    Change 'hero' to 'traitor' AND add 'blindly following' in between 'towards' and 'the'...and that is exactly how I think about people like you.


    Have a nice day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Funny.

    Change 'hero' to 'traitor' AND add 'blindly following' in between 'towards' and 'the'...and that is exactly how I think about people like you.


    Have a nice day.
    I wouldn't even waste a brain cell to belittle you. You seem to have a good grip on showcasing yourself as well..you.

    Snowden was, is, and will continue to be a coward for not standing on his principles and staying to fight. He ran like a coward and will die like one.

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