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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I'll take that as a 'no' to my question.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    There is a difference in standing up for what you believe and tattling as you run away. I'll come back to Rosa Parks for the difference.
    I guess that would make Albert Einstein and Saul cowards then.
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I guess that would make Albert Einstein and Saul cowards then.
    I am not sure which Saul you are talking about but Einstein was certainu an enemy to the Third Riech. I don't think that. Makes him a coward or a hypocrite since that is what he wanted to be. Snowden claims to be a patriot, yet he has betrayed the USA. He is no Einstein.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I am not sure which Saul you are talking about
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    Snowden claims to be a patriot, yet he has betrayed the USA. He is no Einstein.
    How did he betray the USA? He has done Americans a favor by opening their eyes to the unconstitutional practices of our State.
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Coward?
    Can't say.
    Stupid?
    Yes, definitely !
    If this was outed under the Bush Admin. I have a feeling you would be singing a different tune.
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We call Snowden a criminal and condemn him because he broke the law, violated his oath and refused to work within the system.
    We revere many people in history who did exactly that.
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Indeed. Sad but true.

    This is revealing a very ugly side of some of my fellow libertarians. It seems that there are many who oppose authority for its own sake, not out of principle but merely because they like rebellion.
    The govt is in open rebellion against the Constitution. I have no respect for a govt that does not respect its own law.

    But a true Libertarian should loathe Snowden because fundamental to Liberty is Responsibility. So many libertarians forget that liberty is a double edged sword. It doesn't just mean doing what you please, it means taking personal responsibility for the harm you cause.
    What harm has Snowden caused?
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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
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    Ok, well Paul stood up to his punishment to make is point. There is no comparison.

    How did he betray the USA? He has done Americans a favor by opening their eyes to the unconstitutional practices of our State.
    He revealed classified information, which is bad bough in itself. Then he defected to Venezuela. He did no favors to anybody. If something is supposedly unconstitutional there are proper channels through rule of law to deal with it, and whether it was constitutional or not is by no means certain. It was perfectly legally legitimate. It's not like Snowden was doing something heroic like standing up to real human rights violations like torture. He betrayed top secret information that caused grave harm to national security over misguided concerns about antiquated notions of privacy.

    Invasion of privacy, bah! Talk about champagne problems.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We revere many people in history who did exactly that.
    Hey, speak for yourself.

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    re: Edward Snowden Asylum To Be Offered By Venezuela,President Nicolás Maduro Says[W:271]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    The govt is in open rebellion against the Constitution. I have no respect for a govt that does not respect its own law.
    Incorrect. these were warranted searches.

    What harm has Snowden caused?
    Untold harm to national security.

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