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    NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    The anti-LGBT group the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) sent a fundraising email to supporters late Wednesday asserting that Americans must choose between supporting LGBT rights and or supporting their country. According to Metro Weekly’s Poliglot blog, the email offerred a choice of an LGBT rights rainbow flag or a U.S. flag, asking, “Which banner will you choose?”
    “We’re a republic founded on the principles of religious liberty, freedom and democracy, endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights. We’re a nation where citizen rights come from God, not from government, and where the people are sovereign, not politicians or judges,” wrote NOM’s Brian Brown. “But those principles are under siege, by the culture, by our federal government and, increasingly, by the US Supreme Court.”


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    Ohhh silly hate groups..
    They will be on the wrong side of history..


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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhh silly hate groups
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
    Oh how did i forget denying people rights is "moral"


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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
    Tell us more about how we can't support LGBT rights and support our country at the same time. Please explain to me why you agree with this premise. I am very interested to hear it.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
    And why exactly should anyone believe the claim by the religious right to have a special understanding of morality? It's certainly not reflected in their actions.

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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    This comparison seriously needs to stop. Those that support traditional marriage are not denying anyone their rights and are acting according to their beliefs just like the pro-SSM crowd.

    You can compare SSM to Jim Crow when homosexuals are forced into separate schools, separate establishments, sit in the back of the bus, and all the other things minorities suffered through. It's such a disgrace to drag the civil rights movement down by comparing it to people being unhappy that some don't want to change the definition of marriage to include same sex couples.

    It's as absurd as comparing SSM to polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, incest, and the many other things that some illogical people will argue when discussing SSM. It's a shame so many in the pro-SSM crowd refuse to see this and instead want to compare their opposition to the racists during Jim Crow and insult everyone as if their beliefs are rooted in hatred while flinging around the "bigot, homophobe, hater" mantra. Really, the extremists are two sides of the same coin. It's a shame so few are willing to call out that behavior and will even endorse it.

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    Kinda ironic how fundamentally intolerant those are who push SSM. It's not enough for them to hold their own view, you're wrong and hateful and should probably die if you don't agree.

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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Kinda ironic how fundamentally intolerant those are who push SSM. It's not enough for them to hold their own view, you're wrong and hateful and should probably die if you don't agree.
    I just think it's funny that they (those that fling the anti-SSM people are bigoted homophobes and equal to racists in the 60's) push a meme of "love, tolerance, and freedom" yet are intolerant of other views, have hatred for those that hold those views, are quick to judge and slander everyone that disagrees with a bigoted attitude, and deny them the freedom to vote and have their voice heard on issues. That's what happens when people grow so delusional and self righteous in their thinking. They need to believe that the other side is evil, that they themselves are morally superior, and degrade the position of others that disagree with them.

    And as previously clarified, this only applies to those that judge anti-SSM individuals and hurl around the insults, not everyone that supports SSM (as I myself do).

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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
    Morality is relative. You don't seem to understand this, Bob. I guess I'll just have to keep reminding you.
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