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    NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The statement that all morality is relative is in itself an absolute statement and self defeating.

    I think laws are created largely based on societal morals, but there exists an absolute moral code as given by God that governs all people whether they accept it or not. The fact of the matter is that everyone dies and gets judged by God according to His standards, not ours.
    Or you could view morality as something largely created and enforced by social customs, expectations, and government. You wouldn't want someone to be a nihilist-you would want them to buy into some sort of social convention.

    Now that is what eventually happens in this situation. Unabashedly, the best mechanism for change is to enforce it, to make the contrary taboo at best.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The fact of the matter is that everyone dies and gets judged by God according to His standards, not ours.
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    1.A thing that is indisputably the case.

    Your arguments are decent, unfortunately they get lost as you try to push your OPINION and BELIEF as something it's not. You can try to stand on your high horse lecturing how others are acting, but all you're doing is acting like other wolves but trying to hide it behind sheeps clothing.

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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I just think it's funny that they (those that fling the anti-SSM people are bigoted homophobes and equal to racists in the 60's) push a meme of "love, tolerance, and freedom" yet are intolerant of other views, have hatred for those that hold those views, are quick to judge and slander everyone that disagrees with a bigoted attitude, and deny them the freedom to vote and have their voice heard on issues. That's what happens when people grow so delusional and self righteous in their thinking. They need to believe that the other side is evil, that they themselves are morally superior, and degrade the position of others that disagree with them.

    And as previously clarified, this only applies to those that judge anti-SSM individuals and hurl around the insults, not everyone that supports SSM (as I myself do).
    There is a large, unsubtle difference between being against SSM and the message NOM put out. I can respectfully disagree with the former, the latter is just being an ass. If that makes me a hater and intolerant, so be it. Some things should not be tolerated.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The statement that all morality is relative is in itself an absolute statement and self defeating.
    Saying all morality is relative is not the same thing as saying no absolutes exist, so how in the world could it be called self-defeating? What do you think the statement "all morality is relative" means if you think it relates to absolute statements in some way?
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is a large, unsubtle difference between being against SSM and the message NOM put out. I can respectfully disagree with the former, the latter is just being an ass. If that makes me a hater and intolerant, so be it. Some things should not be tolerated.
    And who is going to decide which opinions should be tolerated, and which should not?

    It is certainly notable that those of you on the far wrong are all for “tolerance”, until it comes to opinions that you do not like, at which point you are the first to call for those opinions to be silenced.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Ohhh silly hate groups.. [/FONT][/COLOR]They will be on the wrong side of history..
    Uhh...doesn't look like any persons from the first pic will be around in 40 years.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    And who is going to decide which opinions should be tolerated, and which should not?

    It is certainly notable that those of you on the far wrong are all for “tolerance”, until it comes to opinions that you do not like, at which point you are the first to call for those opinions to be silenced.
    Who has called for any opinion to be silenced? Who do you have to make **** up? Why is their opinion sacred, but mine not? Hypocrisy much?
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who has called for any opinion to be silenced? Who do you have to make **** up? Why is their opinion sacred, but mine not? Hypocrisy much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is a large, unsubtle difference between being against SSM and the message NOM put out. I can respectfully disagree with the former, the latter is just being an ass. If that makes me a hater and intolerant, so be it. Some things should not be tolerated.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
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    Odd, no one is calling for any one to be silenced there. Nice try tho...Well, not really.
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    re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Odd, no one is calling for any one to be silenced there. Nice try tho...Well, not really.
    What, then,did you mean, by saying that “Some things should not be tolerated”? Nothing was being discussed, other than opinions and beliefs and the expression thereof, so it makes no sense to claim that it was not an opinion, belief, or expression thereof that you intended to include among the things which “should not be tolerated”. And to not tolerate an opinion, belief, or expression thereof, what can that mean other than to call for the silencing of that expression? To allow a belief or opinion to be expressed, no matter how disagreeable it might be to you, is to tolerate it.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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