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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    No more than any other crime. Unfortunately Homosexuality is not a crime and the morality of our nations is going down the tubes.

    We've heard this lame excuse throughout our history many many many many many many many times.


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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    We've heard this lame excuse throughout our history many many many many many many many times.
    Perhaps it is not lame or an excuse.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Perhaps it is not lame or an excuse.
    \Or its just another stupid excuse especially since heard it throughout history with freeing of the slaves, giving women the right to vote, desegregation. And somehow we still are here. Honestly what is going to happen? Seriously?


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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    No more than any other crime. Unfortunately Homosexuality is not a crime and the morality of our nations is going down the tubes.
    Why is it unfortunate that homosexuality isn't a crime? There's no legal or moral justification to make it illegal for people to be homosexual.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    Why is it unfortunate that homosexuality isn't a crime? There's no legal or moral justification to make it illegal for people to be homosexual.
    What do you consider moral justification? Homosexuality is pretty immoral.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I've seen some here say that liberalism is a disease....why not conservatism?
    Conservatism, when practiced properly, leads to a functional and productive society.

    Liberalism leads to a dysfunctional, self-destructive, non-productive society.

    If it is proper to argue that a political ideology can be a disease, then certainly, liberalism better fits the definition of a disease than conservatism does.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    What do you consider moral justification? Homosexuality is pretty immoral.
    You're the one calling homosexuality immoral and in need of criminalization, where's the justification? I'm asking you, I don't see a good reason for considering homosexuality immoral (or moral, it simply exists.), much less any sort of justification for locking anyone up for being gay. There's no tangible benefit for the individual or society to start handing out tickets and sentences for two guys or girls for hand-holding or whatever.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Maybe we should just round up everyone that votes for Democrats and have them lobotomized.
    It would make no difference. That's be like cutting off the right arms of amputees who were already missing most of their right arms.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Conservatism, when practiced properly, leads to a functional and productive society.

    Liberalism leads to a dysfunctional, self-destructive, non-productive society.

    If it is proper to argue that a political ideology can be a disease, then certainly, liberalism better fits the definition of a disease than conservatism does.


    Bob has got it! Well except for the fact that if you put four conservatives in one room and ask for THE definition of Conservatism, you will get at least six definitions and perhaps one body.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    So how does injustice exist?
    One of two ways. When because of some loophole, laws are not able to be applied or it's a personal perception.

    More lazy than anything else.
    Not at all. Reality. Just because you don't see it doesn't alter that.


    So sometimes its relative to the person and sometimes to society?
    Sure. Depends on who/what we are discussing.

    If it's relative to society it's perfectly acceptable to point out something that immoral to the society.
    Sure. To that society at that time.

    If it's relative to the person it's pointless to make any judgement about anything.
    It's pointless to make any universal judgment. One can certainly make a personal judgment.
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