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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The subjection of morality is an opinion. There are a firmly coded set of morals that humanity is starting to neglect as a while as we brainwash ourselves to belive that things are not wrong.
    Wrong. Morals are subjective. You cannot prove an objective set of morals. You can only prove that people share certain morals in large numbers, particularly some very general morals.
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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Wrong. Morals are subjective. You cannot prove an objective set of morals. You can only prove that people share certain morals in large numbers, particularly some very general morals.
    I guarantee your are wrong, though it is not something that can be quantified or measured so you won't agree to it. But just know you are wrong.
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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I guarantee your are wrong, though it is not something that can be quantified or measured so you won't agree to it. But just know you are wrong.
    In order for something to be objective, vice subjective, it must be able to be quantified or measured. Otherwise, it is just a belief, like morals.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I think homosexual acts and practices should be illegal, yes.
    And what would the punishment be for the "crime"?

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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Maybe we should just round up everyone that votes for Democrats and have them lobotomized.
    They are not already? I thought it was a requirement for their party.
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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Wrong. Saying something is immoral is RELATIVE, and acceptable to the individual or society at the time.
    So how does injustice exist?

    Saying morality is relative is on target and correct and prevents inaccuracies.
    More lazy than anything else.

    Relatively.
    So sometimes its relative to the person and sometimes to society?

    If it's relative to society it's perfectly acceptable to point out something that immoral to the society. If it's relative to the person it's pointless to make any judgement about anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket88
    No, it would be legal. Legal and moral are two different things.
    Welcome to the conversation. I suggest a review of the conversation up to this point before participating further.
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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    And what would the punishment be for the "crime"?
    Fines, Jail Time, I'm open to options.
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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Fines, Jail Time, I'm open to options.
    Took a bit of prodding but we finally got an answer, actually it took less than I thought. Your brain is certainly an interesting one to pick through.

    I asked you what you believe the punishment should be and while we didn't a more direct answer, looks like you would be okay with a government that fined and jailed millions of Americans for being homosexual.

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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? | The Raw Story

    Ohhh silly hate groups.. [/FONT][/COLOR]They will be on the wrong side of history..
    In 40 years? They look stupid now.

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    Re: NOMís July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    Took a bit of prodding but we finally got an answer, actually it took less than I thought. Your brain is certainly an interesting one to pick through.

    I asked you what you believe the punishment should be and while we didn't a more direct answer, looks like you would be okay with a government that fined and jailed millions of Americans for being homosexual.
    No more than any other crime. Unfortunately Homosexuality is not a crime and the morality of our nations is going down the tubes.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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