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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    According to the Wiktionary

    Verb
    tolerate (third-person singular simple present tolerates, present participle tolerating, simple past and past participle tolerated)

    1. To allow (something that one dislikes or disagrees with) to exist or occur without interference.

    If you say that you are unwilling to tolerate a particular belief, then that means that you are not willing to allow this belief to be expressed without interference. To interfere with one's right to express a belief that you do not want to be expressed meets the definition of censorship. To tolerate something is to allow that thing to exist or occur, even if you do not like it. This is what you said you were unwilling to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    By that definition, there'd be no "Debate Politics." Wouldn't you have to "tolerate" what Obama says without disagreeing? Disagreeing with someone is very American. I can "tolerate" what you say, and still disagree. It is in fact, my right to say that I disagree, and you have to tolerate that.
    You and I do not appear to be in any disagreement on this point.

    I was responding to someone else who expressed an unwillingness to “tolerate” a belief that he finds disagreeable, and then when called on the clear meaning of what he had said, went to great Haymarket-like efforts to twist and redefine the word “tolerate” in order to deny what he had originally said.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    LOL you want to deny the freedom of two people getting married and you say we aren't the "land of the FREE" or "Home of the Brave" if we allow them to get married? You are funny.

    You are free to move to such a "moral" country somewhere in the ME if you want religion to rule.
    Other than "hell" in the title of the song I suggested, which can be considered both religious and non-religious, depending on usage and connotation, what gives you the idea that I object based upon moral or religious foundations? Or that I would want to live in a religious regulated society?
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Other than "hell" in the title of the song I suggested, which can be considered both religious and non-religious, depending on usage and connotation, what gives you the idea that I object based upon moral or religious foundations? Or that I would want to live in a religious regulated society?
    The fact that you are anti-SSM along with mentioning a song about the U.S. going to "Hell" and "morals" indicated religious motives. IF not, what morals do you follow that disallow gay marriage?

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Animal welfare? Wow, you are a nut.
    So you are for animal abuse?

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The fact that you are anti-SSM along with mentioning a song about the U.S. going to "Hell" and "morals" indicated religious motives. IF not, what morals do you follow that disallow gay marriage?
    Homosexuality is a disease that is an aberration of normal human sexual desires. As a disease, it should not be normalized. It should be researched, the cause found and a cure created. Homosexuality is an abnormality, not a behavior that should be just tolerated for political reasons. It has nothing to do with religion or morals other than possibly as another indication of the decay of our society due to the disease of leftist political views.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why?

    and what should the punishment be?
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    well david I'm curious.

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Homosexuality is a disease that is an aberration of normal human sexual desires. As a disease, it should not be normalized. It should be researched, the cause found and a cure created. Homosexuality is an abnormality, not a behavior that should be just tolerated for political reasons. It has nothing to do with religion or morals other than possibly as another indication of the decay of our society due to the disease of leftist political views.
    In what way is Homosexuality a disease? The term "aberration" implies that a disease is related to immorality, which then stems from religious ideology. I really can't see how you can say this and then say it has nothing to do with religion. The only people who have any problem with Homosexuality are the religious right; there is no secular basis for your statement, it requires a religious definition of "disease".

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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I think homosexual acts and practices should be illegal, yes.
    That's disturbing.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nothing new or surprising about the claim that standing up for basic morality and decency makes one a “hate group”. That's how far our society has degraded.
    The KKK, Westboro Baptist, The Nazi Party in 1930's and 40's all had the same reasoning. The KKK, thought anybody other than white was inferior and it was a moral obligation to kill these inferior beings before they destroy the purity of the white race. The Westboro Baptist, protest the funerals of fallen soldiers who were homosexual because "God Hates Fags." I can go on but hopefully you get my point.
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    Re: NOM’s July 4th message: Are you LGBT or are you American? [W:45]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Homosexuality is a disease that is an aberration of normal human sexual desires. As a disease, it should not be normalized. It should be researched, the cause found and a cure created. Homosexuality is an abnormality, not a behavior that should be just tolerated for political reasons. It has nothing to do with religion or morals other than possibly as another indication of the decay of our society due to the disease of leftist political views.
    Do you know homosexuality is found out all throughout the Animal Kingdom?
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