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    Re: White House To Delay Obamacare's Employer Mandate Until 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes. Show me where the PPACA law says that it is up to the Treasury to decide whether they will enforce the law. Do you assert that a GOP president can simply not play PPACA (or any part thereof) at their discretion? If the administration can decide what to collect then why not what not to pay out as well?
    Congress has discretion over spending, yes. They can change that spending by passing appropriate legislation. (which is unlikely to pass the Senate or be signed by the president)

    Enforcement is executive, not legislative. The government chooses not to collect revenue they are technically owed all the time. For example, an error on my tax return might come with a penalty, but if it was a one-time, honest mistake a lot of the time the IRS will not apply the penalty.

    I'm really not sure why you think this is some outlandish new thing. Since the Treasury wont have the infrastructure in place to show who is in compliance with the mandate, or not in compliance, there wont be any enforcement to do.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: White House To Delay Obamacare's Employer Mandate Until 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Congress has discretion over spending, yes. They can change that spending by passing appropriate legislation. (which is unlikely to pass the Senate or be signed by the president)

    Enforcement is executive, not legislative. The government chooses not to collect revenue they are technically owed all the time. For example, an error on my tax return might come with a penalty, but if it was a one-time, honest mistake a lot of the time the IRS will not apply the penalty.

    I'm really not sure why you think this is some outlandish new thing. Since the Treasury wont have the infrastructure in place to show who is in compliance with the mandate, or not in compliance, there wont be any enforcement to do.
    Again you waffle only because you like Obama and some of PPACA. You would go nuts if a GOP administration said that they decided not to enforce law X because they "lack resources" or "do not have the infrastructure in place". You accept "dreamy" enforcement of immigration laws on the same basis. What sense is it to even have a legislative branch if the executive is free to pick and choose which parts of a law get enforced? Admit that PPACA was a super complex, poorly written/understood mess that is not ever going to be implemented as written, but is constantly "evolving". It would cause political pain to enforce the PPACA law as written, so Obama simply decided to skip implementing some of the "bad parts" until after the 2014 elections.
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    White House To Delay Obamacare's Employer Mandate Until 2015

    And this is why you can't trust liberals. I bet he also wants to blame the next president for the problems obamacare will cause.
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    Re: White House To Delay Obamacare's Employer Mandate Until 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Again you waffle only because you like Obama and some of PPACA. You would go nuts if a GOP administration said that they decided not to enforce law X because they "lack resources" or "do not have the infrastructure in place". You accept "dreamy" enforcement of immigration laws on the same basis. What sense is it to even have a legislative branch if the executive is free to pick and choose which parts of a law get enforced? Admit that PPACA was a super complex, poorly written/understood mess that is not ever going to be implemented as written, but is constantly "evolving". It would cause political pain to enforce the PPACA law as written, so Obama simply decided to skip implementing some of the "bad parts" until after the 2014 elections.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: White House To Delay Obamacare's Employer Mandate Until 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Congress has discretion over spending, yes. They can change that spending by passing appropriate legislation. (which is unlikely to pass the Senate or be signed by the president)

    Enforcement is executive, not legislative. The government chooses not to collect revenue they are technically owed all the time. For example, an error on my tax return might come with a penalty, but if it was a one-time, honest mistake a lot of the time the IRS will not apply the penalty.

    I'm really not sure why you think this is some outlandish new thing. Since the Treasury wont have the infrastructure in place to show who is in compliance with the mandate, or not in compliance, there wont be any enforcement to do.
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