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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Since when are you interested in truth?

    We've already seen the righties come out and denounce any evidence that didn't support their theory of Obama directing it personally as "lies."
    You're projecting again and tossing out strawmen. Par for the course.

    You're the one already assuming that the committee investigating the IRS acting like the Gestapo wants to "crucify" someone. The IRS has already admitted specifically targeting Tea Party and Conservative Groups. Liberal Groups were not targeted with the same level of scrutiny. Not even close. Liberal requests were immediately approved while Tea Party requests were held up in limbo until after the election. Tea Party and religious groups had their requests sent to a special technical group. Many are still pending.

    You and your cronies want to obfuscate and misdirect. Make this about the committee and not about the IRS acting like the Gestapo for the Obama Administration. That's how corruption grows and spreads. People like you excuse it, rationalize it and cheer it on because the power behind that corruption is directed against your opposition. Why don't you tell us why the Bill of Rights only applies to one political ideology in the United States under the Obama Administration. Instead of playing cowardly games and trying to smear the people investigating the corruption, why don't you tell us all why this corruption and abuse of power should be allowed to flourish and continue.

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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Breaking the law is still a crime even if Obama did not direct it. Why is it OK to target anyone for special treatment under the federal tax law based upon their name? Whether the IRS BOLO names listed were based on a particular political slant or not - it is still illegal.
    I'm not saying it wasn't breaking the law. I'm just saying that the committee, which is a political body, cares more about politics than truth.


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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's not special treatment it's about scrutiny and applying the law. It's a no brainer that looking at organizations with "Tea Party" is a great way to funnel out organizations that are political not social welfare groups. Just like "9/12" or "Progressive" or any of the other names they used. Now if they were denying "Tea Party" groups and allowing progressive/liberal groups to get the status that would be unequal treatment.
    What about those with "union" in the name? What social welfare mission does Media Matters involve itself in? They clearly state their mission as having an anti-conservative bias.
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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What about those with "union" in the name? What social welfare mission does Media Matters involve itself in? They clearly state their mission as having an anti-conservative bias.
    Someone should start a group called "Media Matters to the Union of Tea Parties" just to screw with them.


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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post

    You and your cronies want to obfuscate and misdirect. Make this about the committee and not about the IRS acting like the Gestapo for the Obama Administration. That's how corruption grows and spreads. People like you excuse it, rationalize it and cheer it on because the power behind that corruption is directed against your opposition. Why don't you tell us why the Bill of Rights only applies to one political ideology in the United States under the Obama Administration. Instead of playing cowardly games and trying to smear the people investigating the corruption, why don't you tell us all why this corruption and abuse of power should be allowed to flourish and continue.
    I have cronies? Awesome.

    Pointing out that the committee is a political exercise done by politicians for political reasons is not excusing anybody or anything.


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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not saying it wasn't breaking the law. I'm just saying that the committee, which is a political body, cares more about politics than truth.
    Correction: rocket88 cares more about politics than truth

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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not saying it wasn't breaking the law. I'm just saying that the committee, which is a political body, cares more about politics than truth.
    And you do not? Your defense of the IRS "targetting" seems entirely based upon politics. If a labor union spends 90% (or more) of its funds supporting liberal candiates/causes is that not politics as well?

    Political Spending by Unions Far Exceeds Direct Donations - WSJ.com
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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What about those with "union" in the name? What social welfare mission does Media Matters involve itself in? They clearly state their mission as having an anti-conservative bias.
    None of the groups you mentioned are 501(c)(4) "public welfare" organizations.
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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I have cronies? Awesome.

    Pointing out that the committee is a political exercise done by politicians for political reasons is not excusing anybody or anything.
    And specifically targeting Americans for their political beliefs isn't political?

    You're acting like the two are not connected. That if this investigation damages Obama politically (especially if it's shown he or his campaign/administration coordinated it) that it's somehow not credible or justified. It's not the Republicans fault that the IRS under Obama is acting the like the Gestapo and specifically targeting Americans for their beliefs.

    Who else is going to investigate this? Who else has the power? You think the Democrats are going to investigate their own fascism and corruption?

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    Re: Lois Lernerís price for testimony: Immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    And you do not? Your defense of the IRS "targetting" seems entirely based upon politics. If a labor union spends 90% (or more) of its funds supporting liberal candiates/causes is that not politics as well?

    Political Spending by Unions Far Exceeds Direct Donations - WSJ.com
    There's a specific tax exempt status for labor unions...just like there are for political groups.

    501(c)(4) is only about one thing...you have tax exempt status AND you don't need to disclose your donors.
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