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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    look, if they just ran up and tackled him while walking the dog you could justifiably criticize the police for the dogs reaction. But here we have a guy clearly attempting to secure his dog prior to the interactions of the cops, but does not accomplish this because he puts his dog in a car with the windows down.

    The fact that his dog is running loose and acting aggressively is fully his fault. Dog owners, especially those of large aggressive breeds need to be responsible.

    This man was not
    Couldn't we say then that the officers were negligent by not making sure the dog was fully secured before arresting the man? They knew the dog was there.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    So what?
    That's illegal.

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    I know this...if it were my dog they shot...the amount of pure rage that would course through my veins would force them to shoot me as well. If they didn't kill me...they would wish they had
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    So you agree it was acting aggressively?
    My first post:

    Now the dog might have been a threat,

    I also wrote:

    I am not saying that when it lunged it was not justified that the officer took actions to protect himself.

    The dog was defending his owner, who for his feeling was under attack from people he did not trust. There were loads of non-lethal actions the officers could have taken which I mentioned in an earlier post. The officer should have never tried to take the lead or the collar, if the dog had been that much of a threat, how do you explain his actions in taking the collar.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    But still has a duty to secure his dog
    Yes and he did for the purpose of being asked a few questions by police, I doubt the man immediately thought he would be handcuffed or manhandled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    look, if they just ran up and tackled him while walking the dog you could justifiably criticize the police for the dogs reaction. But here we have a guy clearly attempting to secure his dog prior to the interactions of the cops, but does not accomplish this because he puts his dog in a car with the windows down.

    The fact that his dog is running loose and acting aggressively is fully his fault. Dog owners, especially those of large aggressive breeds need to be responsible.

    This man was not
    The dog broke loose only after the arrest/manhandling and did not immediately go after the cops, the cops approached the dog (most likely with good intentions but incredibly stupid nevertheless) and after that the dog looks like jumping up in the direction of the officer closest to the dogs.

    In this case a lot of mistakes have been made, the man for "being black in the area of police officers, filming said officers and commenting on what he thinks is racism of the local police force (things the constitution protects) and a whole load of mistakes by the police (unwarranted arrest, not taking non-lethal measures, trying to take the collar/lead, etc. etc.).

    Fact is that a dog is dead where there is no logical reason for him/her to be dead.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Good for you.. but would you leave an animal to suffer?
    Mercy killing is illegal, unles you're hunting.

    The choice being either let the animal suffer or go to prison for 10 years, I'm letting the animal suffer.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    I know this...if it were my dog they shot...the amount of pure rage that would course through my veins would force them to shoot me as well. If they didn't kill me...they would wish they had
    Well that's why guns have more than 1 bullet in them.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    So you agree it was acting aggressively?




    But still has a duty to secure his dog



    look, if they just ran up and tackled him while walking the dog you could justifiably criticize the police for the dogs reaction. But here we have a guy clearly attempting to secure his dog prior to the interactions of the cops, but does not accomplish this because he puts his dog in a car with the windows down.

    The fact that his dog is running loose and acting aggressively is fully his fault. Dog owners, especially those of large aggressive breeds need to be responsible.

    This man was not
    Yes it does. The guy went there to make a scene and be arested. What he didn't expect was his dog being shot.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    None of which have anything to do with the topic being discussed.
    Of course it does. The man seen in the video has a history of negative interaction with the Hawthorne Police department. He entered into an ongoing police action scene, bringing his dog with him.

    It has been reported by witnesses he was vocal at the scene.

    As the video evidence shows, he was prepared to be arrested by approaching police officers.

    Should they have shot his dog? I don't know. They did. It's a bad deal that the owner put his dog in a situation where the dog was only doing what it thought was right.

    One thing is absolutely sure, the dog would be alive had Rosby not involved himself in a difficult scene. That's a fact.

    Your attempt to testify as if you were an on scene witness to who was doing what is really the only thing that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Couldn't we say then that the officers were negligent by not making sure the dog was fully secured before arresting the man? They knew the dog was there.
    why would it be their responsibility? When they approached the man he did not have his dog.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The dog was defending his owner, who for his feeling was under attack from people he did not trust. There were loads of non-lethal actions the officers could have taken which I mentioned in an earlier post.

    Why should anyone need to endanger themselves trying to secure an aggressive dog they are not responsible for?

    Yes and he did for the purpose of being asked a few questions by police, I doubt the man immediately thought he would be handcuffed or manhandled.
    Again, this really has no bearing on the fact the dog was not properly secured. The cops making an arrest did not cause the window to go down, the window was already down


    The dog broke loose only after the arrest/manhandling
    So it was clearly not properly secured. if it was properly secured, it would not be able to simply jump out the window, arrest occurring, or not


    Fact is that a dog is dead where there is no logical reason for him/her to be dead.
    You mean besides being loose and acting aggressively?

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