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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    Yes, the guy was dicking around. Yes, he should have properly secured his dog when given the chance to do so or not gotten it involved in the first place.

    But the police knew he had a large dog. Would the sensible option not have been to ensure that the dog was in fact secure or, upon seeing that it wasn't, order the owner to secure it properly? It's not like they didn't have enough cops around to deal with what was already going on.
    He didn't want to turn music down when asked... you think he was going to secure his dog when asked?

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    Would the sensible option not have been to ensure that the dog was in fact secure or, upon seeing that it wasn't, order the owner to secure it properly?
    No. It's not their dog, so it's not their responsibility.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    He didn't want to turn music down when asked... you think he was going to secure his dog when asked?

    Pffft......
    That's where they proceed to coercion, draw tasers in potential self-defense, etc.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that doesn't even make sense
    They do not need to be 'actively involved' to be crowd control, unless the crowd is pushing past the barricades. They just need to be standing nearby. For these types of situations there are always cops on duty for crowd control.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Since when is blaring your music and harrassing working officers about the race of officers involved in a call and then yelling swear words at them while refusing to turn down music considered "cooperative".
    I am talking about when the cops approached him.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    It was...

    If the race baiting troll hadn't been there being a race baiting troll.... then the situation wouldn't have happened.

    Since when do we blame someone other than the person causing the problem to begin with? What kind of society do we live in when people are quick to blame the police for the other man's childish game?
    I never said the man didn't deserve some of the blame. I had no problem with his supposed intent: to keep an eye on the police. More citizens should be doing that. But I do have a problem with the music part (if it was indeed too loud and the cops aren't just bsing).

    The police are paid by us the taxpayers to do their job professionally and do it properly. I believe they did not do their job properly since they had their blinders on and paid no attention to the situation with the dog.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I agree. He didn't have to choose to be a vigilante and harass the police. He didn't have to bring his dog, either. That was completely avoidable.
    Even after all that, it was still completely avoidable if the cops used some common sense about animal behavior.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No. It's not their dog, so it's not their responsibility.
    They are police officers. If the dog is considered a potential threat then it is their responsibility.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    They are police officers. If the dog is considered a potential threat then it is their responsibility.
    ...to shoot the dog.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...to shoot the dog.
    Only if they had reasonable fear for their safety, which is not what I'm arguing here. It was their responsibility to make sure the dog was secure prior to arrest. Now they have taxpayer-funded investigation on their hands because of their failures.
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