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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Seemed like a busy neighborhood, lots of people out and about.

    Maybe the whole incident makes the police appear callous in general.

    Stray bullets vs stray dog, wonder which is more dangerous.
    The dog wasn't a stray.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    When is the last time a full grown man was killed by a dog?
    In fact, you are more than twice as likely to be killed by a dog than an 'assault weapon'.
    ...and we all know what CA did to 'assault weapons'.

    What we need, therefore, is common sense assault-dog bans. These military-style dogs....to include Rottweilers, German Shepherds, and Pit Bulls....need to be taken off the streets. You don't need 10lbs of dog to play fetch! Any dog heavier than 10lbs (or 7lbs in NY) is a high-capacity military-style dog of war, and should be reserved strictly for military and police use.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    What are the numbers when you filter out elderly women and children?

    My point is that the police didn't really have a reasonable fear for their life. Deadly force wasn't necessary.
    Well, I don't think that's the standard for a dog attack. You seem to be conflating this with the level of response a policeman makes with respect to threats from people. Not the same, needless to say. If the cop thought that dog was simply going to bite him and cause injury (which is reasonable based on the video and the breed), he had a perfect right to shoot it. Hell, I think all rottweilers and pitbulls should be shot as a matter of principle (but that's just me)

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I understand its illegal to play music at a certain level. But did he not comply?
    My understanding, based on the witness' statement, was this was not the issue. The issue was police were in the middle of a potentially dangerous operation and had surrounded a house with a robbery suspect in it. The last thing they needed was music blasting from a car radio nearby interfering with their communication.

    The guy should have just turned down his radio. He didn't. It's his own fault he got arrested and his own fault for not having the foresight to restrain his dog, especially a dangerous breed like a rottweiler.

    I understand that there are strained relations between the minority community and the Hawthorn police department, and the community has real grievances. And I'm not passing judgment on the guy's distrust for the police. It's probably warranted. But that has nothing to do with the fact that he interjected himself into a dangerous situation and the police have a right to protect themselves in the line of duty. You don't solve police abuse issues by interfering with an arrest and having your Rottweiler lunge at a cop.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I understand its illegal to play music at a certain level. But did he not comply?
    He did not. The song he had on repeat can be heard in the video.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    He did not. The song he had on repeat can be heard in the video.
    I believe the witnesses (who are hardly pro-police) have said the same. They claim when the police asked him to turn off his car radio, he responded with an obscenity. He denies it (claiming he's a God-fearing Christian -- always a dubious defense), but there is no reason to doubt the witnesses.

    That's why they arrested him (after resolving the robbery arrest). My understanding is his music ostensibly and indirectly made the robbery arrest more difficult, so they arrested him for disorderly conduct. If he had turned off the music, they clearly wouldn't have arrested him.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I believe the witnesses (who are hardly pro-police) have said the same. They claim when the police asked him to turn off his car radio, he responded with an obscenity. He denies it (claiming he's a God-fearing Christian -- always a dubious defense), but there is no reason to doubt the witnesses.

    That's why they arrested him (after resolving the robbery arrest). My understanding is his music ostensibly and indirectly made the robbery arrest more difficult, so they arrested him for disorderly conduct. If he had turned off the music, they clearly wouldn't have arrested him.
    this might be the first time I have ever seen that charge properly used

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A video of police shooting a dog to death in front of its owner has gone viral after being posted to Reddit Monday afternoon.
    Update: Hawthorne Police Launch 2 Investigations Into Fatal Dog Shooting: LAist

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Rule #1 You must always comply with a police officer's command. If the guy has a beef with the low number of black police officers he needs to take it up with city hall or enlist himself but not at an armed robbery scene. Wrong time, wrong place.

    Rule#2 Never put your dog in an unsafe place. You have all this commotion going on and you don't even secure your dog. That is like letting your dog run loose at a firework show.

    I have a Rottie mix and I would never put my dog in harm's way.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Well that's a waste of time and tax dollars. The dog charged at the cops. The cops shot it. End of story.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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