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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Perhaps you should grow thicker skin. My opinion.
    Perhaps you should debate the issue rather than troll.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Perhaps you should debate the issue rather than troll.
    I would appear you wouldn't know if I did, or did not, debate the issue.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Hopefully you wouldn't be stupid enough to cause the situation in the first place, unlike the officers in the video.

    And hopefully he sues the police department and makes a mint, he deserves it.
    The police officers did nothing wrong.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I would appear you wouldn't know if I did, or did not, debate the issue.
    Oh but I do.

    95% of posts in this thread = debate
    Post #139 = trolling
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Oh but I do.

    95% of posts in this thread = debate
    Post #139 = trolling
    In your opinion...

    Post #139 was my opinion based on your representation that you were the sole purveyor of truth over what occured at the scene. By indicating that you shouldn't serve on a jury, it meant you had drawn a conclusion you were defending, based on information that could hardly be considered complete, or in context.

    I didn't write that you were an idiot, or a jerk.

    If you can't see that, I guess that's your problem.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I would agree with you if the fellow was inside the barricades which to my mind - and I'm not cop so I'm speculating here - defines the limits of the crime scene.

    You have to obey the lawful orders of the police. That's not in question. And I agree he should've lowered the radio but that doesn't appear to me to be lawful order in this case.

    I have a huge problem with "disorderly conduct" style offenses because they're very often used abusively. I also have in the back in my mind that the cop may well have shot the dog simply to punish the guy.

    from one of the articles I read my understanding is he was being arrested for actions prior to the video. Basically crossing the police lines with his dog and refusing to turn down his music. And while I share your concern with Disorderly conduct style charges, this isn't a good case to cite. being the owner is the type of asshole such laws are meant to target (being a nuisance at an active armed robbery scene)

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Granted I'm never going to reach for a dog, I like my fingers they open my pay check, but I would have killed the dog with the first lunge, not the second.
    Yeah, that cop tried to resolve the issue much more than most people would have

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I think it is clear this could have been better handled by both sides.
    The cops actions remain questionable (we don't know what occurred prior to taping, but witness testimony doesn't seem to favor the dog owner, at this point). The same can not be said of the dog owner. He failed to properly secure his animal and it tried to attack someone.


    But I am being especially critical of the police because they are paid by taxpayers to properly handle these kinds of situations.
    How would you handle the situation? So far, your expectations seem totally unrealistic

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I didn't write that you were an idiot
    That is right. You decided to be less direct in your wording.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That is right. You decided to be less direct in your wording.
    If you say so...

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