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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, again, I have to disagree - if the dog owner was innocent, as seems to be the impression, there would be no reason for him to put a well behaving dog in the car simply because two police officers were approaching him. If two police officers approach you on the street, do you automatically turn around and put your hands behind your back to be handcuffed? That's at the very least an admission that he thought he'd done something wrong.
    He probably knew it is considered illegal in many areas to record/film a crime scene and so expected an arrest. Many people, especially the black community, are very much aware of this ridiculous law. That, or he was intentionally being dramatic for the camera.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    They were endangering themselves by NOT making sure the dog was secure. That does not mean they had to touch the dog or get really close. They could have had the owner do that.
    1)How does your post make sense within the context of what I am replying to? FYI: I am replying to someone asking why the cops didn't attempt non-lethal measures. My reply was why should they, or anyone else, risk personal injury to secure a dog they are not responsible for?

    2) the dog was lunging at them and the entire confrontation lasted about a half minute

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Even the Police Department has stated it was FEAR that was behind shooting the dog. Cops fear alot of things, like does someone have a gun in the house. Does that give cops right to shoot people because they are unarmed?
    Yes, it does, actually.

    It also gives regular citizens in Florida the right to shoot an unarmed teen if they are in reasonable fear for their lives

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    When I happen upon a police action, I never expect to be arrested.
    You can expect that if you are recording the the police. At the very least, they will smash your device.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    In the video, there were people standing on a front lawn as the two police officers approach the guy with the dog - the police pass them first - why didn't the police arrest or harass those people if the police were just targeting innocent people because that's what the local police do?
    dude was a ****ing idiot. He's basically causing a scene at an active crime scene, blasting his music and being a general waste of space. He deserves no sympathy, even if the cops were in the wrong

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The dog no doubt thought he was coming to his master's aid. Too bad the owner was not as loyal to the dog as the dog was to the owner. My dog is in her usual evening location under my desk, at my feet, as I type.
    Good evening, CJ.
    Good evening 2M - mine is on the couch, on her back sleeping away, as I type and watch the BlueJays/Tigers game. She can bark up a storm and appear very threatening if you knock on the door or deliver the mail, but when under my command on our walks, she's gentle as a lamb - but I'd never put her in such a situation because I'd never want her harmed, and even though I know her so well, you can never tell what a loose dog will do if its fight instincts take over.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    He probably knew it is considered illegal in many areas to record/film a crime scene and so expected an arrest. Many people, especially the black community, are very much aware of this ridiculous law. That, or he was intentionally being dramatic for the camera.
    I'm certainly no lawyer or legal expert, but it is my understanding that while police often claim that such recording is illegal, it in fact almost never is.
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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    They knew he had put away his dog. Training (and common sense) would tell them to make sure the dog is secure.
    Why, the dog is not where they are actively dealing with the guy, and they saw the owner secure it. All they know is that he secured it, but within a minute or two it starts charging them

    Anyone with a brain knows that arresting a man will get its dog worked up. Not that they had to arrest the man in the first place.
    lol, what is your next expectation, that they go door to door making sure people are properly restraining their animals before they conduct an arrest? Your demands are totally unrealistic and place responsibility away from the very person it rests on: the dog owner

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    He was not making a scene. He was videotaping/taking pictures.
    Listing to the people who were making the video....the whole reason they were recording this guy in the first place is because he was making a scene and they were enjoying it.

    Shortly before the dog got out of the car, one person close to the camera made a comment "man I'd let the dog out...let the dog after them..."...then the dog got out and everyone started shouting "they gona shoot him, don't shoot him...", then the dog was shot and the same guy who said he'd let the dog out after the cops was upset that the dog got shot.

    ****ing morons.

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    Re: Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good evening 2M - mine is on the couch, on her back sleeping away, as I type and watch the BlueJays/Tigers game. She can bark up a storm and appear very threatening if you knock on the door or deliver the mail, but when under my command on our walks, she's gentle as a lamb - but I'd never put her in such a situation because I'd never want her harmed, and even though I know her so well, you can never tell what a loose dog will do if it's fight instincts take over.
    If my dog and I ever encountered a problem while out, my dog would get right next to me, look up, and ask: "Well, what are you going to do about this?" The wolf genes are gone in this one.
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