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Student Loan Rates Double After Congressional Inaction

You are not owed a higher education.

I agree, but I also believe that providing access to a higher education to as large a proportion of a country's population as wants it and can qualify for it, is one of the best investments in the future that a country can make.
 
My Organic 2 professor was ridiculous. A genius really, but absolutely insane. Out of the original 200 or so students, more then 60% dropped and there were only maybe 9 or 10 As. Definitely the hardest I have ever worked for an A in my life.

my organic teacher was from Pakistan, and he was pretty decent. i bothered him incessantly for help, and even leaned on classmates, which i hate to do. i wasn't used to working that hard to understand something. he saw how hard i was working, and gave me a better grade than i probably deserved. at the end of the semester, i breathed a sigh of relief and opted out of semester 2.

the most difficult A i ever earned was graduate level immunology. a couple of us studied almost every night of the semester; taking the occasional break on a Saturday night and right after tests. i don't miss that one.
 
my organic teacher was from Pakistan, and he was pretty decent. i bothered him incessantly for help, and even leaned on classmates, which i hate to do. i wasn't used to working that hard to understand something. he saw how hard i was working, and gave me a better grade than i probably deserved. at the end of the semester, i breathed a sigh of relief and opted out of semester 2.

the most difficult A i ever earned was graduate level immunology. a couple of us studied almost every night of the semester; taking the occasional break on a Saturday night and right after tests. i don't miss that one.

Looking forward to it. :lol:
 
You are not owed a higher education.

Do you want the perception of a mobile society, where a man or woman, armed with their hard work and dedication, can improve their lot in life? That's part of the American dream, and it is a good one at that. Allowing the hill to become steeper and steeper because they are expected to do the hard work only ensures that fewer and fewer individuals will be able to accomplish what previous generations could. Sooner or later you begin eliminating those who could do that much more by having the expense of post secondary education being too high.
 
Do you want the perception of a mobile society, where a man or woman, armed with their hard work and dedication, can improve their lot in life? Allowing the hill to become steeper and steeper because they are expected to do the hard work only ensures that fewer and fewer individuals will be able to accomplish what previous generations could.

People really need to stop thinking higher education is the only way forward.
 
People really need to stop thinking higher education is the only way forward.

It is not the only way forward, but when you feel like you haven't got the option, it is a serious barrier-at least, speaking from experience.
 
People really need to stop thinking higher education is the only way forward.

And they need to give up some of the frills and plan for it where they do not have to borrow tons of money. There is something wrong with a person that borrows money to maintain a false look in society.
 
It is not the only way forward, but when you feel like you haven't got the option, it is a serious barrier-at least, speaking from experience.

The fact is that when something gets to the point where no one can afford it people are supposed to look towards other options, not run to the government to fix it for them.
 
I wish the costs would get so high that people had to plan for it, like it used to be.
 
They can look for options, and some may exist, but if scores of employers want ____ education, and you cannot even do that, you have just shut out a ton of people.

I am glad I took out loans, but I'm not stupid enough to say that they should keep increasing interest rates, because I want my modest career that badly.
 
They can look for options, and some may exist, but if scores of employers want ____ education, and you cannot even do that, you have just shut out a ton of people.

I am glad I took out loans, but I'm not stupid enough to say that they should keep increasing interest rates, because I want my modest career that badly.

Did you ever consider that perhaps the loans themselves are a problem? The fact that people have to take out a loan to go to college right off the bat makes it obvious to anyone that higher education is not affordable. When those loans get to the point where the debt becomes a serious burden we are well past the point where the marketability of the service is in serious question.

What basically happened is everyone pushed more and more for higher education and more and more places of employment started to require it as result. As this happened higher education got more of out of reach as time went on and instead of letting the situation resolve itself we decided instead to push harder for higher education until the point in 2010 where government decided to take charge of the situation. At no point in this situation did we learn a damn thing and no point did we actually resolve anything. All we did is make ourselves more and more screwed as time went on from a shear lack of understanding of the situation.

What is really scary is we did the same exact thing with healthcare insurance.
 
Do you want the perception of a mobile society, where a man or woman, armed with their hard work and dedication, can improve their lot in life? That's part of the American dream, and it is a good one at that. Allowing the hill to become steeper and steeper because they are expected to do the hard work only ensures that fewer and fewer individuals will be able to accomplish what previous generations could. Sooner or later you begin eliminating those who could do that much more by having the expense of post secondary education being too high.

We need to ask just why the cost of education has gone so high, not just bend over and take it.
 
If that were your goal then you should want to make schools harder and college harder to get into and stay in so people would stop screwing around and taking 5 years to graduate to buy another year of suspended adolescence.

What about the paradigm with college making it take 4 years to graduate?
 
What about the paradigm with college making it take 4 years to graduate?

It should be 3. With the credits you can pick up in HS, it should be 2 for many. It is about exacting the right amount of blood from you.
 
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