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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The nonsense that you must first prove voter fraud is "rampant" before you can "justify" its prevention is insane.
    Is it nonsense that one must first prove that gun laws would actually solve a serious problem before one can justify putting more restrictions on gun ownership?

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If that minority is illegal aliens or bus loads of "professional" voters then that should be stopped. The nonsense that you must first prove voter fraud is "rampant" before you can "justify" its prevention is insane. Banks/stores don't need to be robbed first to know that security is important.
    Yes, but a security method that also prevents legitimate customers from entering the building isn't a good option either, is it?

    How many legitimate voters are you willing to disenfranchise for each fraudulent vote prevented?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Banks are private businesses. I don't particularly care what they chose to do. I care about laws which are designed to make it more difficult for opposition to exercise their rights.

    On the opposite side of the coin, though, you have people who support ID's for voting, but oppose ID's for getting guns. We know that crimes with guns are rampant. That's not merely paranoia, it's proven fact. If the people who oppose ID's for getting guns support ID's for voting, I'm naturally skeptical of the altruism in their claims of potential voter fraud. They don't seem to give a **** about criminals getting guns, why would they suddenly care about them voting? I guarantee the individual gun can do more damage than an individual with a vote can.
    Good point. I support the exact same requirements for voting and buying/carrying guns - right down to the cost.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Good point. I support the exact same requirements for voting and buying/carrying guns - right down to the cost.
    I don't understand the right down to the cost thing. Are you saying people should have to pay to vote, or that guns should be free?
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    The sad part is that a lot of electoral changes were still getting blocked. States covered by this law really were trying to pull **** they shouldn't be pulling. Keep an eye on the flurry of electoral changes in those states that just by sheer coincidence happen to affect (D) votes slightly more than (R).
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If that minority is illegal aliens or bus loads of "professional" voters then that should be stopped. The nonsense that you must first prove voter fraud is "rampant" before you can "justify" its prevention is insane. Banks/stores don't need to be robbed first to know that security is important.
    The probability of being struck by lightning is higher then the chances of widescale voter fraud occurring

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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Is it nonsense that one must first prove that gun laws would actually solve a serious problem before one can justify putting more restrictions on gun ownership?
    Yes. In order to restrict an individual constitutional right then you must prove that you are using the least restrictive method possible to uphold a state interest. Requiring a valid, state issued, photo ID to be presened is not any more restrictive than for cashing a check, boarding an aircraft or buying guns, ammo, alcohol or tobacco. I support the exact same requirements (including cost) to vote as to keep/carry a gun.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I don't understand the right down to the cost thing. Are you saying people should have to pay to vote, or that guns should be free?
    My bad, I meant keeping/carrying a gun. I am saying that if it takes $240 to get a state's gun carrying permit then it should take $240 to get a state's voting permit. One should never have to pay the state a rental fee to regain (retain?) their individual constituional rights. If it is important for the state to know who is buying a gun then it is also important for the state to know who is casting a ballot.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    My bad, I meant keeping/carrying a gun. I am saying that if it takes $240 to get a state's gun carrying permit then it should take $240 to get a state's voting permit. One should never have to pay the state a rental fee to regain (retain?) their individual constituional rights. If it is important for the state to know who is buying a gun then it is also important for the state to know who is casting a ballot.
    Gotcha. I agree with that. I don't think there should be a fee to retaining either permit.
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    Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Provision Of Law Meant To Protect Minority Voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The probability of being struck by lightning is higher then the chances of widescale voter fraud occurring
    Which occurs more often - mass shootings with "assault" weapons or voter fraud? Which was declared a national issue by Obama?
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