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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Not one single organization was denied no matter what they were called. I was hoping this would lead to reviewing exemption of charitable orgs but I guess that will not be happening. Our whole tax code is a joke!
    Yeah, in the end the part I find isn't who gets targeted for additional scrutiny, it's who gets approved. Political groups aren't supposed to be tax exempt, but the IRS seems to (eventually) approve all of them.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Now we learn that it isn’t just the fringe right that was targeted, the fringe left were also targeted.

    And to make the story even more wacky, obots are celebrating this as if it is good news.

    The corporate shills that run government were targeting the groups unhappy with how corporate shills run government. Can you obots explain the cause for your celebrations, it seems seriously misguided to me?
    They were apparently trying to keep both sides from abusing the system.

    Trying to keep corporations from purchasing shills with anonymous donations.

    Its a good thing they were trying to keep both sides from doing it.

    Much of the outrage is simply not understanding how the exemption process works.

    Fraud is commonplace.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Ever wonder why they waited so.long to make an issue of this?

    They certainly knew at the time.

    Most who are up in arms completely forgot that it was about CU.

    Do you think they would have gotten the traction they have when the idea of unlimited anonymous donations was fresh in everybodys minds?

    Of course not. It would have been clear what was going on.

    So they waited until Americas short attention span kicked in and THEN made a big deal about it.

    Making it appear they were being picked on instead of trying to game the system to facilitate anonymous donations.

    There was a REASON applications increased 50%. The Citizens United decision and the promise of anonymity 501(c)(4)s offered.

    Pumping millions of dollars of anonymous money into the election.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    I'm frankly appalled so many are championing this behavior.
    What of labor unions - they are clearly as politically active as any Citizens United yet you see no foul there do you?
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What of labor unions - they are clearly as politically active as any Citizens United yet you see no foul there do you?
    Unions are 501(c)(5)s, a completely different classification with different rules.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Once again the usual clown show of Fascists are jumping to conclusions to try and shield their messiah from accountability. They immediately accept whatever smokescreen excuse is given to them because the truth doesn't matter to them. There were 500 Tea Party, Christian and Jewish groups specifically targeted, harassed and intimidated. Their applications were sent to a special exempt organizations technical group. No "Progressive" groups received such scrutiny.

    'Lookout List' Not Much Broader Than Originally Thought, Contrary to Reports | National Review Online

    That means the applications of progressive groups could be approved on the spot by line agents, while those of tea-party groups could not. Furthermore, the November 2010 list noted that tea-party cases were “currently being coordinated with EOT,” which stands for Exempt Organizations Technical, a group of tax lawyers in Washington, D.C. Those of progressive groups were not.

    Based on the lookout list examined by NRO, however, it is inaccurate to say that progressive and liberal groups were subjected to the same or similar scrutiny as tea-party groups, or even that a surprisingly broad array of criteria was applied to screen applications for tax exemption.

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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Now we learn that it isn’t just the fringe right that was targeted, the fringe left were also targeted.

    And to make the story even more wacky, obots are celebrating this as if it is good news.

    The corporate shills that run government were targeting the groups unhappy with how corporate shills run government. Can you obots explain the cause for your celebrations, it seems seriously misguided to me?
    No left leaning groups were not targeted with the same level of scrutiny. Not even close.

    And you're right. These fascists are jumping around with joy because they believe their own groups were targeted for intimidation and harassment by the IRS like Tea Party and religious groups were. Sad and pathetic.

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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This illegal targetting using BOLO lists was done by the IRS as standard practice up until one month ago but it was OK. No sanctions (criminal charges?) against those IRS employees that used the "official" BOLO list will be made since it has been discontinued. All is now well - until the next BOLO list is made, of course. No harm, no foul, nothing to see here folks just move along...
    What bothers most people about the list is whether or not their guy won. Think the GOP's BOLO lists don't have Liberal groups on them? Think again.

    All Issa cares about is his little theatrical temper tantrum. Truth is not the goal of the hearings.


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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What of labor unions - they are clearly as politically active as any Citizens United yet you see no foul there do you?
    Unions were actually the first ones to take advantage of Citizens United. It was fun watching the Republicans here have a cow about "outside union money" influencing the election. I think they thought it was just good for them!


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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What bothers most people about the list is whether or not their guy won. Think the GOP's BOLO lists don't have Liberal groups on them? Think again.

    All Issa cares about is his little theatrical temper tantrum. Truth is not the goal of the hearings.
    Stop trying to make this about Issa. This is not about Issa. This is about the IRS acting like the Checka and the Gestapo. Time and again this is the tactic used to try and excuse a Government that is acting outside of it's Constitutional authority. Savage the investigator. Labeling people is dismissive. Psychologically it can effective on the weak minded, but it's nothing more than a tactic. The goal is to polarize any potential threat to Obama as he craps all over the Bill of Rights.

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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What bothers most people about the list is whether or not their guy won. Think the GOP's BOLO lists don't have Liberal groups on them? Think again.

    All Issa cares about is his little theatrical temper tantrum. Truth is not the goal of the hearings.
    All Obama cares about is that this "goes away" without any federal personnel actions or additional congressional investigation/oversight.
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