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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Only the word "progressive" wasn't used?

    Flagging "tea PARTY" is a no brainer. Whoever applied with the word "party" in their name was an idiot or breaking the rules. Parties ARE NOT ELIGIBLE for 501(c)(4) status. Period. Tea party put up candidates, remember?

    But you guys don't want to know who owns you politicians. Ignorance is apparently bliss.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Doesn't media matters just **** with fox news?
    They seem to focus primarily on presenting the progressive perspective of the "news". Can't really see how that relates to social welfare. It seems pretty obvious that they're political at their core.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Only the word "progressive" wasn't used?

    Flagging "tea PARTY" is a no brainer. Whoever applied with the word "party" in their name was an idiot or breaking the rules. Parties ARE NOT ELIGIBLE for 501(c)(4) status. Period. Tea party put up candidates, remember?

    But you guys don't want to know who owns you politicians. Ignorance is apparently bliss.
    Did any "Tea Party" groups with 501c4 status put up candidates? It's an important distinction and I would agree that if any 501c4's did this then that is a definite no no.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

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    MediaMatters is a 501c4. Do they follow the rules?
    The liberal Media Matters and conservative Media Reaserch Center are both 501c3s.

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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The liberal Media Matters and conservative Media Reaserch Center are both 501c3s.

    About Us | Media Matters for America

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    I thought they were 501c4. If they are actually 501c3 then that makes it even worse!

    501(c) organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    501(c)(3) exemptions apply to corporations, and any community chest, fund, cooperating association or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, to foster national or international amateur sports competition, to promote the arts, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals.[10][11] There are also supporting organizations which are often referred to in shorthand form as "Friends of" organizations.
    Not exactly the language one would apply to Media Matters OR Media Research center...
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I thought they were 501c4. If they are actually 501c3 then that makes it even worse!

    501(c) organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Not exactly the language one would apply to Media Matters OR Media Research center...
    If you could turn of the snark for a moment, how is Media Matters not an agent for education purposes?
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I thought they were 501c4. If they are actually 501c3 then that makes it even worse!

    501(c) organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Not exactly the language one would apply to Media Matters OR Media Research center...
    They both deal with education in politics and jneither promote candidates.

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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    They seem to focus primarily on presenting the progressive perspective of the "news". Can't really see how that relates to social welfare. It seems pretty obvious that they're political at their core.
    I think its actually deconstructing the conservative perspective.

    Are they a conduit for anonymous campaign money? Buying attack ads, or for a specific candidate.

    You can be as ideological as you want, its when you actively participate in direct political ACTIVITY that you approach the "line".
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Did any "Tea Party" groups with 501c4 status put up candidates? It's an important distinction and I would agree that if any 501c4's did this then that is a definite no no.
    This is the jewel in the oyster.

    How was the irs to know which groups were the Tea Party PARTY and which were just using that name?

    Their job is to make sure people aren't abusing the system. Not forming geoups SOLELY to be conduits for anonymous campaign money instead of that only being "part" of their purpose.

    So they came up with "keywords", like search engines use, and put them on BOLO lists.

    LOOKS bad, and that's why we have the hubbub.

    Does not change the fact they were free to operate as if approved for a LONG time and then have their approval be retroactive.

    If they were legit, there was NO reason they couldn't have done so, and NO reason for anyone not to donate to them, as donations aren't deductible.

    The ONLY reason they wouldn't get donations if if they WERE being formed to solely funnel anonymous money into the election and when this was revealed later would result in exposure of donor lists.

    This is optics and scandalmongering. No meat in this sandwich.
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    Re: IRS conspiracies fall apart as BOLO list targeting ‘progressive’ groups revealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    If you could turn of the snark for a moment, how is Media Matters not an agent for education purposes?
    What in my post could you POSSIBLY interpret as "snark"?

    Here is the definition for 501c3...
    501(c)(3) exemptions apply to corporations, and any community chest, fund, cooperating association or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, to foster national or international amateur sports competition, to promote the arts, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals.[
    Here is the definition for 501c4...
    501(c)(4) organizations are generally civic leagues and other corporations operated exclusively for the promotion of "social welfare", such as civics and civics issues, or local associations of employees with membership limited to a designated company or people in a particular municipality or neighborhood, and with net earnings devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.[36] An organization is operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare if it is primarily engaged in promoting the common good and general welfare of the people of the community
    And here is the definition for 527...
    A 527 organization or 527 group is a type of U.S. tax-exempt organization organized under Section 527 of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. § 527). A 527 group is created primarily to influence the selection, nomination, election, appointment or defeat of candidates to federal, state or local public office.

    Technically, almost all political committees, including state, local, and federal candidate committees, traditional political action committees, "Super PACs", and political parties are "527s." However, in common practice the term is usually applied only to such organizations that are not regulated under state or federal campaign finance laws because they do not "expressly advocate" for the election or defeat of a candidate or party.
    Check out the front page of Media Matters...

    Media Matters for America

    And check out the front page for Media Research Center...

    Media Research Center


    These organizations ARE NOT educational, they are political and they both have agendas that aren't even hidden. They exist as political counterbalances. So, given that, filing 501c3 is even a bigger joke than if they filed 501c4. They're extensions of the Republican and Democratic party for the most part.
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