You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
You know as well as I do that the timing and the way it was carried out stink to high heaven.
Whats your argument? That because groups were approved after the election it doesnt matter? Not even leftist journalists with a shred of integrity buy into that, because its not true. Doing this before the election makes it worse---not better.
I made the mistaken assumption that using a left leaning source might mean some kind of dent in your unreasonable front of apologizing for the IRS because this story is bad for liberalism. Too bad you cant put politics above reason.
As to last point about "...if Obama ever did something truly detestable and wrong that the republicans would get him..." I think that is true. The problem is that the Cons keep trying to create the crime and hang it on the man. Obama has yet to fit the bill of doing something "truly destestable AND wrong"... at least from a "get him" perspective. Rather than try to make stuff up, while you are waiting for the "truly destestable AND wrong", perhaps come up with a vision for America... perhaps, actually do what Boehner says is the #1 issue: jobs. The Cons have no plan for jobs other than tax cuts (aka - silliness).
As to Obama trying to steal elections through voter fraud; at least the type of voter fraud that Cons want you to believe... getting people that aren't eligible to vote to vote.... that is one of the most laughable, non-plausible indictments ever levied. Do you have any idea how many people you need in on this plan to actually effect the outcome of a national election (with sufficient certainty to actually try it)? At least 100,000 to 1 million people would have to risk jail time to vote illegally. If anyone were dumb enough to actually propose such lunacy; certainly smarter people would shoot it down because getting 100,000 people to keep their mouth shut.... well impossible.
The way you steal elections through voter fraud is the way the Cons do it: by suppressing the vote with voter ID laws and placing insufficient voting machines in unfavorable districts. The other way to do it is to mess with the tabulation systems (computer hacking)... Sorry, but the idea that national election outcomes are altered by registering illegal votes is a myth perpetuated by mental lightweights that do not think through thinks like that.
As to spying on Americans, I agree that is an outrage. It should be a bi-partisan outrage levied against both parties, as the idea of the Imperial Presidency (the Executive that is above the law) seems to be something the leaders of both parties agree upon, though we should not.
Last edited by upsideguy; 06-26-13 at 08:17 PM.
whine whine whine.
Mitten's woulda been POTUS....if the baggers had been able to get their tax exemption!!!
You keep ignoring the fact that leftist groups received their status approval in a matter of weeks, while conservative groups took years.Again, BOLA included both con and lib groups.
Another data point:
In fact, the only known 501(c)(4) applicant to have its status denied happens to be a progressive group: the Maine chapter of Emerge America, which trains Democratic women to run for office. Although the group did no electoral work, and didn’t participate in independent expenditure campaign activity either, its partisan status apparently disqualified it from being categorized as working for the “common good.”
Meet the group the IRS actually denied: Democrats! - Salon.com