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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are you comparing honorable American troops to The Red Army? How insulting is that?
    See you wouldn't be happy with it. Despite the fact you think Obama is a horrible person who destroying the country you would be very unhappy if a country you perceive as aiding your enemies or as one of your enemies came in for your own good to rid you of obama and occupy the country. I wonder why you do not allow those people in afganistan to feel the same way?

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We should have just left Hitler alone, too. Huh?
    'Conservatives' never bother learning history... Hitler declared war on the USofA. It was he seizing large chunks of Scandinavia and Europe that was seen as dangerous by FDR, most Americans didn't care one whit what was done to German Jews prior to the invasion of Scandinavia and the Low Countries. Even when France was over run most 'conservatives' just sneered and shrugged.

    'Conservatives' fought becoming 'entangled' in Europe's wars like the Founding Fathers said back when we were a tiny agrarian nation.

    So it seems as far as the 'conservatives' of that era were concerned, yes we should have left Hitler alone...

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    See you wouldn't be happy with it. Despite the fact you think Obama is a horrible person who destroying the country you would be very unhappy if a country you perceive as aiding your enemies or as one of your enemies came in for your own good to rid you of obama and occupy the country. I wonder why you do not allow those people in afganistan to feel the same way?
    Now, you're comparing Obama to the Taliban?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    'Conservatives' never bother learning history... Hitler declared war on the USofA. It was he seizing large chunks of Scandinavia and Europe that was seen as dangerous by FDR, most Americans didn't care one whit what was done to German Jews prior to the invasion of Scandinavia and the Low Countries. Even when France was over run most 'conservatives' just sneered and shrugged.

    'Conservatives' fought becoming 'entangled' in Europe's wars like the Founding Fathers said back when we were a tiny agrarian nation.

    So it seems as far as the 'conservatives' of that era were concerned, yes we should have left Hitler alone...
    Oh, it was the Liberals that wanted to go to war?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dont have to 'justify' anything. Democrat and republican alike all seem to believe that taking out Al Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan was the 'right' thing to do. People can disagree with taking out Saddam, but hey...they can also disagree about every president, every military action ever taken. Justify it? To you? Please. As if I give a **** about you. I have spent 7 trips to the middle east under the command of republican and democrat President alike. I sent young men and women into Bosnia to take out a guy that represented no threat to the US. Funny...I never heard many of the bleeding heart liberals bemoaning their evil neocon president Clinton, there or during the numerous attacks against Iraq during his presidency. I have a son in the ME now. I am fine with the war. I think Bush mishandled the post war ops and we should have been gone from both places a long time ago...but thats just me. Personally Im glad the Iraqis don't have to deal with Saddam or his sons and had the opportunity to create a government. I'm glad the Taliban isnt there in charge of Afghanistan pushing buildings on top of homosexuals burying them alive, stoning them for even ACTING effeminate (lord knows they would **** up a few people in this country given the chance, right?), killing women for the crime of teaching girls to read, etc. Perfect world? Doesnt exist. Make the best of what you have. Afghanistan and Iraq have 'opportunity'. Squander that opportunity...**** them...their problem. Dont like that opinion? **** you...thats your problem. Now you go ahead and keep on bleating and bemoaning the ouster of Saddam and the Taliban. Carry on.
    Again you make an argument against a position I never stated. I NEVER said I wish the Taliban or Saddam had been left in power. I did say there are hundreds of very bad men around the world if that is the only benchmark. I said NATION BUILDING and attempting to 'give the people a choice' was a fool's errand in Afghanistan. but you can't agrue those facts, you have to make my position up...

    The sad fact is as soon as US troops pull out of Afghanistan the Taliban or some just like them will return to wipe out any trace of a USofA presence- so much for choice. Our soldier's deaths only delayed a return to the buildings being pushed down on gays or women being shot for reading in public.

    Clinton wasn't a neo-con, Bosnia wasn't Iraq and we didn't preemptively attack Serbia. For a guy who sent young men and women to Bosnia you sure don't understand the situation, perhaps it is best you stayed behind.

    Bosnia didn't cost us thousands of US troops. Those troops were not subject to hundreds of IEDs. The USofA went in rather reluctantly and only AFTER Europe had an epic fail there. you seem to be completely wrong on Bosnia, but I can understand a 'conservative's' strong need to find an equiv to BushII's Epic Blunders. But Bosnia is no cigar.

    I don't mourn the squandered opportunity, I mourn the thousands of dead and maimed Americans who drove the streets and walked the patrols, many got 'the patch' so few walked the walk, all so a few neo-cons could gamble they have figured out Vietnam. they hadn't.

    I regret the trillions spent so recklessly. But realistically there was never an opportunity for 'the people' to have a choice, we could never put enough troops in either place to allow the people to truly decide for themselves and are quite unwilling to stay the decades to ensure the bad guys don't come back.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Now, you're comparing Obama to the Taliban?
    no, now you are deflecting a truth of the situation you do not wish to see. The reality is most people do not want their country occupied even when it may be in their own interest, and you want desperately to cling to the idea that we should be considered heroes by the countries we invade.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, it was the Liberals that wanted to go to war?
    FDR and his crowd saw the threat of a Europe dominated by Nazi Germany and fought the Isolationist Republicans to first supply France and England with weapons, then fought to extend our protective ocean patrols all the while the Republicans were spouting crap about foreign entanglements....

    It wasn't until after Pearl Harbor, dec 7th, that Hitler declared war on us, dec 11th.

    But once again you attempt to twist history to fit a 'conservative' spin...

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    FDR and his crowd saw the threat of a Europe dominated by Nazi Germany and fought the Isolationist Republicans to first supply France and England with weapons, then fought to extend our protective ocean patrols all the while the Republicans were spouting crap about foreign entanglements....

    It wasn't until after Pearl Harbor, dec 7th, that Hitler declared war on us, dec 11th.

    But once again you attempt to twist history to fit a 'conservative' spin...
    But...but...but...the Republicans were Liberals, back then.
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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    no, now you are deflecting a truth of the situation you do not wish to see. The reality is most people do not want their country occupied even when it may be in their own interest, and you want desperately to cling to the idea that we should be considered heroes by the countries we invade.
    "Want", there country occupied? Of course not. Resent a foreign army for liberating their country? There are plenty of examples where the latter was welcomed with open arms.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But...but...but...the Republicans were Liberals, back then.
    You REALLY need to get your money back. The republicans fought hard against the New Deal, Social Security, Bank Reform, Stock Market Reform, Unions, Trust and monopoly reform....

    IF the Republicans were liberals they would have been forcing the New Deal and Social Security down FDR's throat....

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