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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Sorry, but if those people want to be ruled by the taliban then that is their choice, not ours. Unless you want a full on all out invasion of afganistan and to make it completely under US control the people of that country will decide who to follow, and it will probably be the people who go against those who blow them up. Also, I don't pay taxes to help the people of ofganistan, and neither do you. We are not the world's p[olice force. You sure as hell are not over there to save gays and transgendered people. Believe me, if the reason for this war was women's rights, and protection of the GLBT community there is no way republicans would have ever done it. So please stop trying to pretend we are over there to help people. I do not fall for that BS when the government says it, why would I fall for it when some guy on the internet says it.
    It's their choice not ours... until they show up here by the shipload and are granted asylum by the very same people that didn't care enough to help them in the first place.
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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So we should of just packed up and left after getting to Al Queda? Sorry, we took out your government, police force and blew up a lot of your infrastructure, bye, have a nice day.
    The real government of Afghanistan was left in place, it is a tribal society and the tribal structure along with the warlords was left virtually intact. police is an awfully subjective term, if you mean the morality police then yes, if you mean the enforcer of customs, traditions and arbitrator of disputes see tribal structure and warlords above. Now as far as infrastructure goes, they didn't have a lot of that and we didn't attack Afghanistan like Iraq, what little they have we left in place.

    Afghan culture has never been tolerant of any invader coming to 'fix' or 'enlighten' them. What makes us think it would suddenly be different?

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yes. The Taliban should have been left in power in Afghanistan. Their cooperative efforts with AlQaida were certainly helpful, and you HAVE to love how they treated women and homosexuals. Of course...transgendered types there I am sure recieved the same kind of love and respect. Oh...for the good old days of Taliban rule in Afghanistan and Saddam in Iraq.
    it is a tenuous thread you weave trying to have the Taliban do more than give Osama a place to live after being kicked out of the Sudan. it was more a courtesy after Osama's help fighting the Soviets rather than a mutual love fest.

    Now given the current, some say puppet government, we installed I don't think gays or women get that great a shake now. I don't see the SSM issue going well in Afghanistan...have a missed it being adopted in Kabul?

    Given the enormous cost of both Iraq and Afghanistan and the very crappy return, democracy my shiny hiney, gays and the transgendered can expect no surge of governmental love, women have a very good possibility of returning to second class citizen with a few showboat exceptions.

    We never learn....

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    The Marshall Plan worked out pretty well.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    It's their choice not ours... until they show up here by the shipload and are granted asylum by the very same people that didn't care enough to help them in the first place.

    That is a completely different problem that came from the depths of your overactive imagination. The crazy fear mongering in this argument is completely absurd. Seriously, if we didn't give the jews a place in america after ww2 I am pretty sure we are not going to take in every muslim refugee that is out there just because they ask. When that becomes a problem then you bring it up, but the magical fantasy hypothetical arguments need to be kept to glen beck where they belong.

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So we should of just packed up and left after getting to Al Queda? Sorry, we took out your government, police force and blew up a lot of your infrastructure, bye, have a nice day.
    Everyone except the US does that.
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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

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    Everyone except the US does that.
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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Everyone except the US does that.
    The Roosians tried to stay and change Afghanistan, to include women's rights... 10 years of it... how did that go? Did we learn nothing from our and their Vietnam???

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    Re: Report: Subcontractors in Afghanistan Do Crazy Things When They Don't Get Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    it is a tenuous thread you weave trying to have the Taliban do more than give Osama a place to live after being kicked out of the Sudan. it was more a courtesy after Osama's help fighting the Soviets rather than a mutual love fest.

    Now given the current, some say puppet government, we installed I don't think gays or women get that great a shake now. I don't see the SSM issue going well in Afghanistan...have a missed it being adopted in Kabul?

    Given the enormous cost of both Iraq and Afghanistan and the very crappy return, democracy my shiny hiney, gays and the transgendered can expect no surge of governmental love, women have a very good possibility of returning to second class citizen with a few showboat exceptions.

    We never learn....
    Like I said...Im glad to note that you would prefer the rule of Saddam and the Taliban. THIER record on the matters...well...it was pretty clear. But in case you missed it, we can probably post the videos again of the hangings, the burned bodies, the women stoned for the crime of being raped, etc. Me...Id take the OPPORTUNITY for self determination, democracy, even...whats that label you like...oh yeah...progress...over what was already known. But...hey...different strokes.

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