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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Paula Deen is pretty much everything I don't like, so I'm not defending her. But her career will go on and this is only a blip. TBH I'm more concerned about the sexual harassment complaints. There is absolutely no talk that she was discriminatory in hiring or employment, only that she and her brother once told some stereotypical racist jokes.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    You didnt start a thread so how do you know?
    I have no idea what you're asking. There is a current thread I've read today that compares the interest in Deen's comments with the lack of comment on "Uncle Thomas." I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Of course context matters. But are you saying only black people can use it is a benign context?
    Did you see where I said "unless used as a criticism of its usage." In that situation, non-blacks can use it too because they are not intending it as a degradation of blacks.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.

    In this thread you believe that the focus should not be on Deen, but on Black racism, that somehow the issue is "racial injustice" where if Deen uses a racial epithet, the problem is societies over-reaction (we are being politically correct). There is no problem with Deen....the problem is us. On the other (sleight of ) hand, according to you, the thing we need to focus on is how we allow Black racism, that the problem is that we allow it, we are not intolerant of it.

    You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, if we criticize Deen, if we are intolerant of her speech (what you supposedly want when you say on the one hand that we should be intolerant of ALL racism), we are being "PC", that we are faking it, that our criticism is not real. The way you deal with the example at hand is to chastise us for criticizing Deen's racism while complaining that we are not at the same time being critical of some generalized "Black racism".

    At best it is inconsistent thought, at worst it is a racist double standard hiding behind a smiley face.
    You apparently missed the post by another member, which I was simply responding to, that did indeed focus on "black racism" to which I presented an opinion__Is that not okay?!

    But rather than taking the time to notice this obvious detail, you immediately saw red and jumped to the conclusion that, "hey this must be racism!" and went into attack mode to show everyone just what a wonderful champion of the poor downtrodden minorities you are_

    Which I consider to be so very PC that it's sickening__Seriously, get a life dude!
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Paula Deen Fired: Food Network Cancels Show After Racism Scandal

    Gwyneth Paltrow used the word niggas'. Robert Byrd was a KKK member and used the word 'nigger'. Paula Deen used he word 'nigger' in her past and she got fired. Gwyneth is doing just fine and Robert Byrd was fondly remembered by Bill Clinton.
    Maybe it had something to do with Byrd not having a cooking show, but instead voting in a manner that actually helped working people and minorities?

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Paula Deen is pretty much everything I don't like, so I'm not defending her. But her career will go on and this is only a blip. TBH I'm more concerned about the sexual harassment complaints. There is absolutely no talk that she was discriminatory in hiring or employment, only that she and her brother once told some stereotypical racist jokes.
    Persona is what sells on TV. Now her persona is the kind of person who tells racist jokes. Not a big deal in the great scheme of things, but a big deal if you want a popular TV show. Maybe she should go back to being a cook at a restaurant.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Maybe it had something to do with Byrd not having a cooking show, but instead voting in a manner that actually helped working people and minorities?
    Maybe it had more to do with him being a democrat.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Sure, just like WHITE RACISM is empowered by BLACK GUILT.

    If BLACKS would just let their GUILT go, then WHITE RACISM would disappear.

    If JEWS would let go of their GUILT, then NAZISM would disappear......MAGIC!
    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    You seem to have either missed or ignored the gist of the dilemma we were discussing Gimme_

    Which is, racial harmony will only be realized when society becomes intolerant of all racists, regardless of color_

    You don't appear to have reached that level of intolerance quite yet but don't feel bad, you're certainly not alone_
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Heaven forbid we reach a point of total INTOLERANCE towards racists, where in the world would those young girls with ideas of their inherent superiority hide?
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    The only people I feel superior to are the ones, regardless of their race, who do not think for themselves_




    If you ever break free of the PC that shapes your views and judgement, I might even consider you an equal_
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    I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.*




    In this thread you believe that the focus should not be on Deen, but on Black racism, that somehow the issue is "racial injustice" where if Deen uses a racial epithet, the problem is societies over-reaction (we are being politically correct). There is no problem with Deen....the problem is us. On the other (sleight of ) hand, according to you, the thing we need to focus on is how we allow Black racism, that the problem is that we allow it, we are not intolerant of it.*




    You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, if we criticize Deen, if we are intolerant of her speech (what you supposedly want when you say on the one hand that we should be intolerant of ALL racism), we are being "PC", that we are faking it, that our criticism is not real. The way you deal with the example at hand is to chastise us for criticizing Deen's racism while complaining that we are not at the same time being critical of some generalized "Black racism".




    At best it is inconsistent thought, at worst it is a racist double standard hiding behind a smiley face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    You apparently missed the post by another member, which I was simply responding to, that did indeed focus on "black racism" to which I presented an opinion__Is that not okay?! But rather than taking the time to notice this obvious detail, you immediately saw red and jumped to the conclusion that, "hey this must be racism!" and went into attack mode to show everyone just what a wonderful champion of the poor downtrodden minorities you are_Which I consider to be so very PC that it's sickening__Seriously, get a life dude!
    I am entirely responding to the content of your "opinion", how it is full of contradiction and doulble talk. No where am I "defending" minorities, I am attacking your position that the issue is not Deen but our reaction to Deen and racism by blacks. You fail to address your double standard that we should be intolerant of ALL racism while you complain that we are "pc" when we are intolerant of her racist comments.

    It is just a mixed up, contradictory "opinion" that you can't face up to.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Persona is what sells on TV. Now her persona is the kind of person who tells racist jokes. Not a big deal in the great scheme of things, but a big deal if you want a popular TV show.
    Yeah, we are pretty much talking about where they court of public opinion is king. Hell, it doesn't even matter if she never even said any of it, or did anything that could even possibly be construed as morally wrong. What matters is that public opinion has simply shifted against her, for whatever reason.

    it's kind of the nature of celebrity, especially in the twitter age

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yeah, we are pretty much talking about where they court of public opinion is king. Hell, it doesn't even matter if she never even said any of it, or did anything that could even possibly be construed as morally wrong. What matters is that public opinion has simply shifted against her, for whatever reason.

    it's kind of the nature of celebrity, especially in the twitter age
    True, but if you live by celebrity you die by it. She can hardly complain. If she weren't a celebrity with a popular show, nobody would care what she said or didn't say in private.

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