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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    However, the idea that she's going to do "better than ever" because she said the n-word is hard to swallow. She does have a loyal fan base, but I doubt that her vocabulary has added to it. The people who are buying her book are people who were going to buy the book anyway. They pre-ordered her book to show support, but they were going to buy it anyway. No one is buying the book simply because she said the n-word. IOW, it doesn't represent any increase in income.
    Yeah, I'm not seeing this as a net benefit, either. The same seems to be true of most of her business partners


    Her being dropped from FN is a big blow. It was a platform that kept her in the public eye, and gave her the opportunity to promote her products. Though she keep many, or even most of her endorsements, it's going to be harder for her to get additional endorsements going into the future.
    You never know. The internet has created a great resource for independent guerrilla-style marketing where even people like Adam Carrola have been able to relaunch a flagging career and even become innovators in the market place.

    But if I was putting my money where my mouth was, the safe bet is that her best days are behind her

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Her Novo Nordisk endorsement deal is now "suspended," in light of the incident(s).

    Paula Deen's Novo Nordisk Deal Suspended In Light Of Racism Scandal

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It does make "logical" sense when you realize that a white person using the term invokes centuries of oppression in a way that a black person using the term does not.
    Right, calling someone a "lazy shiftless plantation nigger" does none of that. Don't try to defend social convention on a logical basis, just accept it for what it is

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    As has been observed in another thread, Paula Deen's words are more exciting and valuable to discuss than a Supreme Court Justice being called an "Uncle Thomas." This says something too.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    As has been observed in another thread, Paula Deen's words are more exciting and valuable to discuss than a Supreme Court Justice being called an "Uncle Thomas." This says something too.
    You didnt start a thread so how do you know?

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    See I was under the impression the book was already published. Now Random House is "monitoring the situation closely," as is QVC. It's possible (not bloody likely) but possible that it will not get published, and she'll have to find a new publisher.
    No, the book has been published and the first link I posted says her publisher is still with her. Her newest book just went from the 1500s to number one on the best seller list.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    The only people I feel superior to are the ones, regardless of their race, who do not think for themselves_

    If you ever break free of the PC that shapes your views and judgement, I might even consider you an equal_
    I have no idea on what you base your opinion of my being "pc". You don't show it, you assume it.

    In this thread you believe that the focus should not be on Deen, but on Black racism, that somehow the issue is "racial injustice" where if Deen uses a racial epithet, the problem is societies over-reaction (we are being politically correct). There is no problem with Deen....the problem is us. On the other (sleight of ) hand, according to you, the thing we need to focus on is how we allow Black racism, that the problem is that we allow it, we are not intolerant of it.

    You are talking out of both sides of your mouth, if we criticize Deen, if we are intolerant of her speech (what you supposedly want when you say on the one hand that we should be intolerant of ALL racism), we are being "PC", that we are faking it, that our criticism is not real. The way you deal with the example at hand is to chastise us for criticizing Deen's racism while complaining that we are not at the same time being critical of some generalized "Black racism".

    At best it is inconsistent thought, at worst it is a racist double standard hiding behind a smiley face.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It's not a benign context if used by other races, by definition - unless used as a criticism of its usage. Dropping the N-bomb if you're black doesn't indicate that you think black people are inferior, but if you're white and you drop it, there's a good chance that you look down on blacks.

    It's not "racism" (the word you're looking for is discrimination, BTW), since every other race can use their own pertinent slurs.

    Doesn't context matter?
    Of course context matters. But are you saying only black people can use it is a benign context?

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the book has been published and the first link I posted says her publisher is still with her. Her newest book just went from the 1500s to number one on the best seller list.
    That may very well be, but it's not been released yet. It's still in pre-order status. The book won't be released until October. While Random House is still with her, they are monitoring the situation. One thing is for certain - Target, as well, won't carry her book.

    Target Drops Deen as Her New Book Tops Amazon Best Sellers List | NBC Bay Area

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Deen's business free-fall continues; that's for sure.

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