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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

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    You seem to have either missed or ignored the gist of the dilemma we were discussing Gimme_

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    See I was under the impression the book was already published. Now Random House is "monitoring the situation closely," as is QVC. It's possible (not bloody likely) but possible that it will not get published, and she'll have to find a new publisher.
    If orders are that good, she likely won't have much trouble. The bottom line here is the dollar speaks, and what these companies are doing is making bets on what the long term profitability from deen is.

    Nothing really "moral" about any of it

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It's not a benign context if used by other races, by definition - unless used as a criticism of its usage. Dropping the N-bomb if you're black doesn't indicate that you think black people are inferior, but if you're white and you drop it, there's a good chance that you look down on blacks.

    It's not "racism" (the word you're looking for is discrimination, BTW), since every other race can use their own pertinent slurs.

    Doesn't context matter?
    lol, while "nigga" is more popular in common usage among African Americans, "nigger" is definitely still used and in no way meant to be non-derogatory. With that in mind, does it make logical sense that white people can't use it? No, but social convention hardly ever does

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    If you aren't concerned, excuse yourself from the thread and go find a thread to complain about Obama or something. Sheesh. You don't know me, so you shouldn't talk about something you know nothing about. I am not a Democrat OR a Republican. I don't condone racism of ANY form, from anybody, no matter what letter they have beside their name.
    I don't think I mentioned Obama.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Heaven forbid we reach a point of total INTOLERANCE towards racists, where in the world would those young girls with ideas of their inherent superiority hide?
    The only people I feel superior to are the ones, regardless of their race, who do not think for themselves_

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, while "nigga" is more popular in common usage among African Americans, "nigger" is definitely still used and in no way meant to be non-derogatory. With that in mind, does it make logical sense that white people can't use it? No, but social convention hardly ever does
    It does make "logical" sense when you realize that a white person using the term invokes centuries of oppression in a way that a black person using the term does not.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If orders are that good, she likely won't have much trouble. The bottom line here is the dollar speaks, and what these companies are doing is making bets on what the long term profitability from deen is.

    Nothing really "moral" about any of it
    Nope, it's bloodless business.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If orders are that good, she likely won't have much trouble. The bottom line here is the dollar speaks, and what these companies are doing is making bets on what the long term profitability from deen is.

    Nothing really "moral" about any of it
    If I had to guess, I'd say that absent any additional revelations, the book will be published. Even if there is some additional bad press, I don't think they'd cancel it. At most, they might delay the release date. After all, they publish books written by murderers. Paula has a following, and the book will make some amount of money

    However, the idea that she's going to do "better than ever" because she said the n-word is hard to swallow. She does have a loyal fan base, but I doubt that her vocabulary has added to it. The people who are buying her book are people who were going to buy the book anyway. They pre-ordered her book to show support, but they were going to buy it anyway. No one is buying the book simply because she said the n-word. IOW, it doesn't represent any increase in income.

    Her being dropped from FN is a big blow. It was a platform that kept her in the public eye, and gave her the opportunity to promote her products. Though she keep many, or even most of her endorsements, it's going to be harder for her to get additional endorsements going into the future.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol, while "nigga" is more popular in common usage among African Americans, "nigger" is definitely still used and in no way meant to be non-derogatory. With that in mind, does it make logical sense that white people can't use it? No, but social convention hardly ever does
    Sure, a black person is going to use the N-bomb to degrade himself...?

    Like I said, context matters. Words are different - even slightly different - when used by different people in different situations.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Sure, a black person is going to use the N-bomb to degrade himself...?
    No, he's using it to degrade other black people. Do you think Chris Rock wasn't using it in a derogatory manner, that called on a number of negative stereotypes in his "black vs Nigger" skit?

    Like I said, context matters.
    Which I agree with. But you can find many instances of nigger being used in a very stereotypical and derogatory manner by black people

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