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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    It is very hypocritical of you to talk about double standards. Look I state the obvious. I can't recall ever seeing a conservative either on this forum or on television defend any minority period. If there are incidents then it is rare. With minorities it is always the guilty til proven innocent clause. Let Paula Dean have been black shooting out racial slurs towards whites, there would have been a movement on this board from people like Turtledude.

    The reason why the bet was made is because my friend and I had a discussion about why republicans can't get minorities to join the party. I told him because why would we join a group that believes that we are the enemy? He didn't think it was true, so I point out before it even got started that the vast majority of conservative will make excuses for Paula Dean. He didn't believe me.
    This may shock you but a lot of the people here who make ignorant racist comments are black.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, the suit against Deen is due to her allowing her business to become a hostile work environment.
    I am aware of this. But the comment I was responding to was drawing a comparison between a situation breaking a current contract, and what she said in the past.

    These are clearly not similar


    and they are facts
    I'm not exactly following the case, but nothing seems to have gone beyond allegations, at this point


    there is nothing unreasonable about FN's decision to not renew her contract.
    I already said their actions were more than reasonable. You even thanked the post.


    Why would FN (or any other business) want to be associated with someone who ran a business in such a tawdry and offensive manner?
    to make money? The only reason they likely are severing any ties is because they assume it will be bad for business in the long run. And i am more than ok with that

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As the owner of the business, she has a responsibility to insure that such behavior did not happen.
    I thought he owned his own business? But in cases like that, I think the current legal standard is it needs to be shown that the defendant was either aware of the behavior or should have been aware of it.


    That's the thing about owning a business. You're responsible for what goes on there.

    Shocking, I know!

    I'm really not sure why so many people feel a need to assert some pissy attitude on here.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I am aware of this. But the comment I was responding to was drawing a comparison between a situation breaking a current contract, and what she said in the past.

    These are clearly not similar
    Of course not. But the discussion is about why Deen's contract was not renewed, which had nothing to do with what she said umpteen years ago. You would have noticed that if you weren't so focused on finding some insignificant flaw in someone else's post in order to bolster your own ego.



    I'm not exactly following the case, but nothing seems to have gone beyond allegations, at this point
    Your admitted ignorance is a flawed defense. As I pointed out, her brother has admitted to engaging racially and sexually inapproriate (for the workplace) behavior. In addition, Paula has admitted to knowing about it.




    I already said their actions were more than reasonable. You even thanked the post.
    Yes, I remember

    to make money? The only reason they likely are severing any ties is because they assume it will be bad for business in the long run. And i am more than ok with that
    That's what I think.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Maybe her and Hillary would like to
    hang out?

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    What exactly does Hilary Clinton have to do with any of this? Did she do something with Paula Deen's contract?


    It could be argued that Hillarys callous disregard for Arabs in her Middle East policy of exterminating civillians on a massive scale in Libya and Syria is similar to Nazis blatant human rights violations, which viewed other races as inferior and inconsequential.

    Don't forget - Hillary did vote and support the war in Iraq.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I thought he owned his own business? But in cases like that, I think the current legal standard is it needs to be shown that the defendant was either aware of the behavior or should have been aware of it.




    I'm really not sure why so many people feel a need to assert some pissy attitude on here.
    She is a co-owner because she funded the business. As far as pissy goes, you reap what you sow. Instead of derailing the thread searching for insignificant flaws in people's posts, maybe you should focus more on bringing the discussion back to the issue, which is her recent actions (or lack thereof)
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    An attorney for the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition said current and former Paula Deen employees told him the famous cook and her brother discriminated against black employees, one of whom was consistently referred to as "my little monkey."

    Paula Deen Scandal Continues As Employees Tell Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Of Alleged Discrimination
    She probably picked that up on Monday Night Football.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Of course not. But the discussion is about why Deen's contract was not renewed
    As in most discussions on here, there are usually various "sub-debates" going on. The one I was addressing drew the comparison above. I pointed out how it was faulty. You apparently took issue with that, but now agree ...

    which had nothing to do with what she said umpteen years ago.
    No, the comment I was addressing specifically dealt with "what she said Umpteen years ago"


    You would have noticed that if you weren't so focused on finding some insignificant flaw in someone else's post in order to bolster your own ego.
    You shouldn't take these discussions so personally


    Your admitted ignorance is a flawed defense.
    Not really, because you did nothing to substantiate allegations about her behavior. Which *we* were discussing.


    As I pointed out, her brother has admitted to engaging racially and sexually inapproriate (for the workplace) behavior.
    Yes, if true, her *brother* admitted to such things


    In addition, Paula has admitted to knowing about it.
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    where she believed herself so beloved that ***she could utter racial slurs***, sexually harass and generally market herself as a grandmotherly sexpot looking for a stud to cougar has finally burst
    note the allegation here

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    She is a co-owner because she funded the business. As far as pissy goes, you reap what you sow. Instead of derailing the thread searching for insignificant flaws in people's posts, maybe you should focus more on bringing the discussion back to the issue, which is her recent actions (or lack thereof)
    It was an insignificant flaw. It was the entire basis for his argument and made no sense.

    But getting back to the topic, if she is just a silent partner, that takes no managerial interests in day to day operations, I could hardly fault her morally or see the justification for holding her legally liable. Clearly she would be liable through her financial ties to the restaurant, but that is something different

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    As in most discussions on here, there are usually various "sub-debates" going on. The one I was addressing drew the comparison above. I pointed out how it was faulty. You apparently took issue with that, but now agree ...



    No, the comment I was addressing specifically dealt with "what she said Umpteen years ago"




    You shouldn't take these discussions so personally
    Like I said, you're not at all concerned with the issue at hand, and prefer to look for insignificant (to the issue at hand) flaws


    Not really, because you did nothing to substantiate allegations about her behavior. Which *we* were discussing.

    Yes, if true, her *brother* admitted to such things


    note the allegation here
    Umm, the transcipt (which you obviously did not read) has been linked to in this thread. In that transcript, the fact that her brother has admitted to inappropriate behavior was documented, as well as Paula having known about said behavior.

    So it's not an allegation; It's a fact

    You would know that if you actually cared about the subject of this thread, and not focused on finding insignificant flaws in other people's post. Maybe you should pay more attention to the flaws in your posts - namely that very few of them deal with the subject of this thread
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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