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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, really, they are not. One deals with current behavior, while under employment, the other deals with something long prior to employment. Second, pointing out smeagol is a hypocrite, something you didn't even accomplish, would address smeogals character, not his logic.

    I suggest familiarizing yourself with the logical fallacies
    The lawsuit against Deen's restaurant involves recent behavior.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    When you take a job like that, catholic school, you know they frown on un wed mothers, abortions, gay marriage. You know this up front.
    No one should be surprised that they are fired for breaking a code of conduct that has everything to do with thier job.
    Deen wasn't fired
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The lawsuit against Deen's restaurant involves recent behavior.
    I am aware of this and have even pointed this out previously. Butt the post the person I responded to was commenting on was comparing deen admitting to using a racial slur in the past to someone being fired for present behavior, while under contract not to do such things. You can disagree with the later policy, but it's not a policy that is dependent on past behavior

    But like I said, she's about the most unsympathetic person you can find in this situation

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Besides admitting to using the term in the past, there doesn't seem anything definitive supporting the plaintive in her civil case. Like I keep saying, it's not something I'm really concerned with, and she is a very difficult person to feel sympathetic for, but the public has a tendency to over react to these things
    Only if you consider her brother's admission to using racist language in the workplace, and bringing in pornographic material to be "not definitive"
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Only if you consider her brother's admission to using racist language in the workplace, and bringing in pornographic material to be "not definitive"
    that would be her brother, if he did admit such things

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    An attorney for the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition said current and former Paula Deen employees told him the famous cook and her brother discriminated against black employees, one of whom was consistently referred to as "my little monkey."

    Paula Deen Scandal Continues As Employees Tell Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Of Alleged Discrimination

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I am aware of this and have even pointed this out previously. Butt the post the person I responded to was commenting on was comparing deen admitting to using a racial slur in the past to someone being fired for present behavior, while under contract not to do such things. You can disagree with the later policy, but it's not a policy that is dependent on past behavior

    But like I said, she's about the most unsympathetic person you can find in this situation
    No, the suit against Deen is due to her allowing her business to become a hostile work environment. She *allowed* her business to become a place where racial jokes and epithets and sexually inappropriate behavior was tolerated, and even encouraged.

    Given these facts (and they are facts) there is nothing unreasonable about FN's decision to not renew her contract. Why would FN (or any other business) want to be associated with someone who ran a business in such a tawdry and offensive manner?
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that would be her brother, if he did admit such things
    As the owner of the business, she has a responsibility to insure that such behavior did not happen.

    That's the thing about owning a business. You're responsible for what goes on there.

    Shocking, I know!
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    In an interview with The AJC, Patillo said Deen's use of a racial slur isn't the problem.

    "It's a free country," Patillo said. "We have freedom of speech, and you can say what you want. Our issue is whether that mindset has filtered into employment decisions."

    Patillo said there are strong indications that Deen's operation mistreats and limits opportunities for black employees.

    "What we've found is that there has been disparate treatment," Patillo said. "What we'd like is to have her remedy the situation."

    Those remedies, Patillo said, should include giving blacks a fair chance for employment and promotion, sensitivity training and providing an avenue of recourse for those who have been mistreated.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I'm not defending her, if she violated the terms of her contract then she should face the Consequences.

    I think youv'e misunderstood us.

    We believe people should take responsibillity for their actions and aren't under a corrupt influence that would allow us to ignore the vast double standards that lead to people like you making ignorant assumptions.

    Apply the standards evenly, because no matter what color your skin is that word has racist connotations.
    It is very hypocritical of you to talk about double standards. Look I state the obvious. I can't recall ever seeing a conservative either on this forum or on television defend any minority period. If there are incidents then it is rare. With minorities it is always the guilty til proven innocent clause. Let Paula Dean have been black shooting out racial slurs towards whites, there would have been a movement on this board from people like Turtledude.

    The reason why the bet was made is because my friend and I had a discussion about why republicans can't get minorities to join the party. I told him because why would we join a group that believes that we are the enemy? He didn't think it was true, so I point out before it even got started that the vast majority of conservative will make excuses for Paula Dean. He didn't believe me.

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