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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Let me first say, "ThePlayDrive doth protest too much, methinks."

    I believe you are allowed to express your distaste for racism anyway you please within the bounds of the law. My problem is with how eager people are to cast the first stone at the slightest appearance of political incorrectness. The person in question did ask for forgiveness and though she should have repercussions I'm not quick to write people off who ask for lenience. If she did it again, then I'd be less likely to believe her but still I'm not a fan of unfair persecution.
    How is it actually unfair for people not to care for her for being a racist jerk? She admits to using racial terms, and she is not completely brain dead so she would have to know that term was offensive. I will leave it to the people who were offended by the use of the word to decide to forgive her. I am not going to leave it up to some white guy on the internet as you probably were not directly insulted by the behavior. Really, what is for you to forgive? How nice of you to decide for the people who were offended that they should not be.

    Oh, and having consequences for using fowl language is not even close to persecution. How clueless is that statement? You can control what comes out of your mouth, but the people she is referring to cannot control how they were born. Persecution is things like being property of others, being denied education, being denied employment, being denied voting in a democracy, and even suffering things like lower wages for the same work. Being told not to use the N word in pleasant or professional conversation is not even close to persecution. It is not a requirement for being a white southern lady to say the N word. You have no clue what real persecution is, and you look quite silly for even trying to claim not being allowed to say the N word is even close to real persecution.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    I don't like it when one indiscretion or category of indiscretions is used to negatively define a person's life. I don't like the idea of someone needing to have their lives ruined over something that didn't hurt anybody. I don't like the idea of punishing someone with employer based disciplinary action for something that had nothing to do with their employer. I don't like the idea of kicking someone where they're down and continuing to do so after they've apologized and/or didn't realize they were doing anything wrong. Jay-Z, Kanye West, I-Cube and nearly every African American stand up comic (Cosby, Sinbad and others are stand-out exceptions) have used the n-word probably 1000 times as much as Paula Deen. If its so offensive maybe the rappers and comedians should set the example and not use it any more. I don't think Paula Deen is being treated fairly...and I'm black.

    PS: If I'm not mistaken it was also 20 years ago.

    PPS. Anybody who is honest to goodness so offended by Paul Deen or anyone else using the N-word that they need to see her lose their job in order for the healing process to begin, in my humble opinion suffers from severe mental instability, psychotic levels of low self-esteem and needs professional help immediately.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I don't like it when one indiscretion or category of indiscretions is used to negatively define a person's life. I don't like the idea of someone needing to have their lives ruined over something that didn't hurt anybody. I don't like the idea of punishing someone with employer based disciplinary action for something that had nothing to do with their employer. I don't like the idea of kicking someone where they're down and continuing to do so after they've apologized and/or didn't realize they were doing anything wrong. Jay-Z, Kanye West, I-Cube and nearly every African American stand up comic (Cosby, Sinbad and others are stand-out exceptions) have used the n-word probably 1000 times as much as Paula Deen. If its so offensive maybe the rappers and comedians should set the example and not use it any more. I don't think Paula Deen is being treated fairly...and I'm black.

    PS: If I'm not mistaken it was also 20 years ago.

    PPS. Anybody who is honest to goodness so offended by Paul Deen or anyone else using the N-word that they need to see her lose their job in order for the healing process to begin, in my humble opinion suffers from severe mental instability, psychotic levels of low self-esteem and needs professional help immediately.
    Do you feel that Catholic schools who fire gay teachers or women on birth control in the same way?

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I don't like it when one indiscretion or category of indiscretions is used to negatively define a person's life. I don't like the idea of someone needing to have their lives ruined over something that didn't hurt anybody. I don't like the idea of punishing someone with employer based disciplinary action for something that had nothing to do with their employer. I don't like the idea of kicking someone where they're down and continuing to do so after they've apologized and/or didn't realize they were doing anything wrong. Jay-Z, Kanye West, I-Cube and nearly every African American stand up comic (Cosby, Sinbad and others are stand-out exceptions) have used the n-word probably 1000 times as much as Paula Deen. If its so offensive maybe the rappers and comedians should set the example and not use it any more. I don't think Paula Deen is being treated fairly...and I'm black.

    PS: If I'm not mistaken it was also 20 years ago.

    PPS. Anybody who is honest to goodness so offended by Paul Deen or anyone else using the N-word that they need to see her lose their job in order for the healing process to begin, in my humble opinion suffers from severe mental instability, psychotic levels of low self-esteem and needs professional help immediately.
    I didn't read the article but if her contract wasn't renewed over something she said many many years ago then that's kind of messed up.

    As for racial pejoratives I personally think it makes anyone using them look and sound dumb and ignorant but that's just me
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Do you feel that Catholic schools who fire gay teachers or women on birth control in the same way?
    Apples and oranges question but I'll try to answer it.

    I think the Catholic Church has no business in the private medical matters of its affiliated employees and their families, many of whom aren't even Catholic. I have a friend who has a friend who's mother worked for a Catholic hospital when they were in high school. She had cystic ovaries. Her doctor wanted to put her on birth control to treat her condition but her mother's insurance didn't allow it. The condition worsened and she ended up needing surgery to treat the condition that had progressed into advanced stages. The insurance DID pay for the surgery. Shockingly intrusive and with adverse consequences. In a more general sense I oppose employer-based health insurance for reasons such as this and other reasons as well as the fact that it takes the power to vote with one's pocket book away from the consumer and gives it to the employer. I don't want my job telling me I have to do all my shopping at Wal-Mart because Target is not in my plan either, I can only buy GM automobiles or live in certain neighborhoods my employer selects. Of course, if there is no other option then Wal-Mart is better than nothing.

    Parents get to make choices such as who will they allow to influence and mentor their children. If someone chooses to send their Children to a private faith-based school, there is a reasonable assumption that the private institution will reflect the parent's values and thus the inadvertent mentoring that occurs in the teacher/student relationship will be based upon a Catholic world view. Parents who don't want that for their children have other options. As such, I think it is reasonable for employees of faith-based institutions that work with impressionable children in a relationship based way to agree to sign a statement of faith and code of public conduct prior to and as a condition of employment that hopefully includes a provision of some sort that offers redemption and restoration consistent with Biblical principles for those who fall into indiscretions and are repentant.
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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Can't she just parlay this into her own show on Sirius satellite?

    Howard Stern says offensive crap and he's getting paaaaaaaaaaaaaid on satellite radio.

    So she uses racial slurs. Big whoop. It has little to nothing to do with her craft, other than she cooks more like a southern black woman anyway. How she is not 400 pounds is beyond me.

    she probably has a portable liposuction machine, like the baron Harkonen

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Apples and oranges question but I'll try to answer it.

    I think the Catholic Church has no business in the private medical matters of its affiliated employees and their families, many of whom aren't even Catholic. I have a friend who has a friend who's mother worked for a Catholic hospital when they were in high school. She had cystic ovaries. Her doctor wanted to put her on birth control to treat her condition but her mother's insurance didn't allow it. The condition worsened and she ended up needing surgery to treat the condition that had progressed into advanced stages. The insurance DID pay for the surgery. Shockingly intrusive and with adverse consequences. In a more general sense I oppose employer-based health insurance for reasons such as this and other reasons as well as the fact that it takes the power to vote with one's pocket book away from the consumer and gives it to the employer. I don't want my job telling me I have to do all my shopping at Wal-Mart because Target is not in my plan either. Of course, if there is no other option then Wal-Mart is better than nothing.

    Parents get to make choices such as who will they allow to influence and mentor their children. If someone chooses to send their Children to a private faith-based school, there is a reasonable assumption that the private institution will reflect the parent's values and thus the inadvertent mentoring that occurs in the teacher/student relationship will be based upon a Catholic world view. Parents who don't want that for their children have other options. As such, I think it is reasonable for faith-based institutions that work with impressionable children to agree to sign a statement of faith and code of public conduct prior to and as a condition of employment that hopefully includes a provision of some sort that offers redemption and restoration consistent with Biblical principles for those who fall into indiscretions and are repentant.
    So it is ok for the Catholic church, but not Food Network?

    I think this is where people lose the right wing. Duplicity.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Do you feel that Catholic schools who fire gay teachers or women on birth control in the same way?
    huh?

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    huh?

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    Dean got fired for non work behavior. Many on the right are upset.

    A teacher got fired for non work behavior many on the right were over joyed.

    Duplicity.

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    Re: Paula Deen Fired

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So it is ok for the Catholic church, but not Food Network?

    I think this is where people lose the right wing. Duplicity.
    the situations are not really similar, at all. Also, if your attempt is to point out hypocrisy in his/her position, that does nothing to address the logic in Smeogal's original post

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