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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    And let's not forget the PETA and vegan types who would object to the use of animals for this purpose. I suppose there's no down side if they only confine that restriction to themselves. The trouble is that liberals always seem to want to pull everyone else down, too.

    Meanwhile, grow me a new liver ASAP, please.
    There is already people who object to this, which is why it is not being tried in the US right now. A little hint, it is not the left blocking this. It is the right wing christian wackos who are preventing this right now, and not PETA or Vegans. So if you have a problem with this sort of thing being prevented you might want to take it up with the right wing and not try and blame the left. Stem Cell research is your friend.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    There is already people who object to this, which is why it is not being tried in the US right now. A little hint, it is not the left blocking this. It is the right wing christian wackos who are preventing this right now, and not PETA or Vegans. So if you have a problem with this sort of thing being prevented you might want to take it up with the right wing and not try and blame the left. Stem Cell research is your friend.
    They don't use embryonic stem cells, they use stem cells harvested from the organs in question, usually from adults. Social conservatives have no objections to the use of adult stem cells.

    PETA doesn't object to animal research? I think you are probably wrong about that.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    They don't use embryonic stem cells, they use stem cells harvested from the organs in question, usually from adults. Social conservatives have no objections to the use of adult stem cells.

    PETA doesn't object to animal research? I think you are probably wrong about that.
    Yeah, and that is why the US is not doing this. Sorry, but I am pretty sure the same people who think a woman's sex organs stop working during legitimate rape are probably not close to educated and nuanced enough to know the difference in stem cells. You are blaming the wrong people, and you really need to look at the right for why science is held back in america.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yeah, and that is why the US is not doing this. Sorry, but I am pretty sure the same people who think a woman's sex organs stop working during legitimate rape are probably not close to educated and nuanced enough to know the difference in stem cells. You are blaming the wrong people, and you really need to look at the right for why science is held back in america.
    Liberals are all for science until it interferes with their political agenda or their worship of nature.

    Liberal attitudes toward energy are irrational and anti-scientific. Progressive liberals tend to be antinuclear because of the waste-disposal problem, anti–fossil fuels because of global warming, antihydroelectric because dams disrupt river ecosystems, and anti–wind power because of avian fatalities. The underlying current is “everything natural is good” and “everything unnatural is bad.” Wholesale starvation, disease, and death would be the results of an energy policy based on their ideas.

    Liberal attitudes toward GMOs are insanely and irrationally anti-science. They categorically reject all scientific evidence to the effect that GMOs are not harmful. GMOs will be key to a second green revolution, which will be necessary to feed the world's populations. Opposition to GMOs is as suicidal as it is crazy.

    On climate change they are in the process of ignoring data that doesn't fit their preferred narrative. They refuse to acknowledge, for example, that there has been a 15 year lull in warming. They refuse to acknowledge that climate models have proven to be inaccurate. They refuse to acknowledge that almost all of the predictions of previous IPCC reports have proven wrong. They refuse to acknowledge the growing disconnect between increasing CO2 and warming.

    The knee-jerk reaction of liberal environmental groups to species de-listing, which is based on scientific studies of population trends, denotes a strong strain of anti-scientific religiosity inherent in their movement.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Liberals are all for science until it interferes with their political agenda or their worship of nature.

    Liberal attitudes toward energy are irrational and anti-scientific. Progressive liberals tend to be antinuclear because of the waste-disposal problem, anti–fossil fuels because of global warming, antihydroelectric because dams disrupt river ecosystems, and anti–wind power because of avian fatalities. The underlying current is “everything natural is good” and “everything unnatural is bad.” Wholesale starvation, disease, and death would be the results of an energy policy based on their ideas.

    Liberal attitudes toward GMOs are insanely and irrationally anti-science. They categorically reject all scientific evidence to the effect that GMOs are not harmful. GMOs will be key to a second green revolution, which will be necessary to feed the world's populations. Opposition to GMOs is as suicidal as it is crazy.

    On climate change they are in the process of ignoring data that doesn't fit their preferred narrative. They refuse to acknowledge, for example, that there has been a 15 year lull in warming. They refuse to acknowledge that climate models have proven to be inaccurate. They refuse to acknowledge that almost all of the predictions of previous IPCC reports have proven wrong. They refuse to acknowledge the growing disconnect between increasing CO2 and warming.

    The knee-jerk reaction of liberal environmental groups to species de-listing, which is based on scientific studies of population trends, denotes a strong strain of anti-scientific religiosity inherent in their movement.

    yeah, we should rely on the right when they have Obgyn's elected who think male babies masturbate in the womb. We should rely on the right's scientists who think jesus rode a dinosaur to work. We should rely on people who feel the bible is scientific in nature. Sorry, but the ship has sailed on the right's reliability in the scientific fields.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    yeah, we should rely on the right when they have Obgyn's elected who think male babies masturbate in the womb. We should rely on the right's scientists who think jesus rode a dinosaur to work. We should rely on people who feel the bible is scientific in nature. Sorry, but the ship has sailed on the right's reliability in the scientific fields.
    The religious right talks about their beliefs. The left claims to be rational and scientific and then betrays us all.

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    Re: Human organs could be grown in animals within a year

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The religious right talks about their beliefs. The left claims to be rational and scientific and then betrays us all.
    I am just telling you, since you had a complaint, there is a reason japan is ahead of us on this issue, and it is not because a couple of vegans and some wackos at PETA have done any protests against this. It is because we have been mired down with religious BS over doing stem cell research and japan does not have that stigma with their religious people blocking scientific advancement. Now please do show us some examples of PETA and vegans opposing stem cell research for this purpose, and i will be glad to hammer that down with many more references to the religious right doing so.

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