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Thread: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah...because everybody chooses where they want to work. That's a fantasy land. People chase jobs for the majority of Americans jobs don't chase people.
    yeah if you are a grunt you chase, if you are performance driven and paid they chase you

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I've seen these numbers and looked into some of the causes which included looking through disability demographic charts and other source information.

    I'm at work so I don't have the time to really post all the links and dredge up all that information....

    But for the most part...it seems to be boomers hitting the age of 55 and not quite able to retire yet worn down from manual labor. It's the result of an aging workforce. SS retirement age is fine for someone like me that sits on their ass at a computer for work but it's a different ballgame for someone that depends on providing their physical labor. There's also another part which is the loss of certain job types (manufacturing/construction) and someone that's in their 50's and most likely not going back to school to find a job in another field.

    There are some numbers showing younger folks joining disability but once again...probably associated with other factors like workman's comp being chiseled away and the need for health insurance after a workplace injury. I know in Florida Gov Scott has pretty much destroyed workman's comp and our state employ's a lot of blue collar manual labor types.

    This is what happens when you deregulate and believe that companies that make tons of profits off of someone's labor is no longer responsible for them. We all subsidize that cheap labor with no benefits.
    You would think those average joes would recognize that.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I like how the assumption is that more people on disability means that everyone with disabilities is already covered and the additions are just people lying. Maybe more people are getting hurt. Maybe there were a lot of people who, despite actual disability, were previously denied and now that has been rectified. The right just seems obsessed with the idea of people gaming the system. That's behind all discussions of welfare, immigration, and voting.
    Ever notice that it is THEY who know and interact with all these low lifes?

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    FWIW, the whole system is cockeyed. I meet junkies who get disability because they are junkies. A true self-fulfilling prophecy.

    At the same time, I support my "cat ladies" by providing them a house and a car to sustain the 25 cats tat live with them and the hundreds of other cats they foster, spay and neuter.

    This is a female couple, together for over 25 years. One of them works and makes $12.50 an hour dispatching brake parts to dealers. The other one stays home and takes care of the cats (25 cats - spotless house) and her leg is so gimpy she can't find work. We got her a job at a Vet but they insisted she lift heavy dogs by herself and she just couldn't. She asked another guy to help her for one minute and got fired for it.

    For over a year, we have been put through the disability circus. After you fill out one set of forms, they send more forms. They want medical exams but they won't pay for them so you wait months to see the one fee doctor. If the doctor doesn't come in on your day, they make you start over. So WTF? The system is broken.

    Disability fraud hurts people in real need. They should be re-examined frequently and spied on to insure they don't have cash jobs on the side. But those who are actually disabled should get help.

    Last week I picked up a hooker (not an escort) at MacDonalds. She has ADD and gets disability at the ripe old age of 21. She said "I don't really have ADD but as long as they want to send me money....". Needless to say, she does have other income sources (I gave her $200 but I won't tell you why :-)).

    The problem is more government competence than policy. Yet I have yet to attend an election where any kind of crackdown was suggested by either party.

    I'll gues that most people on disability are truly disabled and live marginally even with their government check. But there are enough flagrant frauds that it makes the system look bad. This could be fixed - but it won't.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Oh, ok. Just checking. There are some who think the decline of the World was started by one man a little over 30 years ago

    To the point, sad? Perhaps just a good idea that was short sighted, in light of the changes in society, and it's growing willingness to pass through life without much effort.
    And then there are some who think a man elected POTUS five years ago caused the decline of this world!

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    He lied
    Translated: you can't rebut the facts, so you're reduced to insults. Like clockwork.

    NEXT RIGHTWING MEME!

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    yeah if you are a grunt you chase, if you are performance driven and paid they chase you
    Yeah...a large group of workers "chase" and those are the one's that work their full life in labor intensive fields and their bodies don't last long enough to reach retirement age.

    Hence a lot of Boomers going onto disability roles that were "chasers"...you know...those despicable folks that worked shifts on assembly mines or in coal mines. Not cool performance driven folk like yourself.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nice political fodder but there really is more to the story
    Disability Rolls and the Makers/Takers/Fakers Nonsense | Jared Bernstein | On the Economy
    I guess this needs to be rubbed in Rocketman's face again.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    You would think those average joes would recognize that.
    You'd think....
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Wouldn't you think most people would value their credibility. Not in republican land!
    It's likely what this means to the AMA is that it will encourage a change in focus among physicians regarding some patients with obesity. Obesity is avoidable and correctable in most people, but not in all people. It seems the AMA is now recognizing that. Most people can lose significant weight and can avoid significant weight gain by diet and exercise. A small percentage of people cannot. I think that is what the AMA is saying. IMHO, for those who really physically cannot lose weight the AMA position may be helpful.










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