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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    We're not talking individual responsibility we're talking about large scale shifts in what is expected of employers and labor.
    How else will society learn this? We had no idea what pensions were, we created them. We had no idea how they would end up, it was a learning process. What people hopefully learned from that is that there are no guarantees. You want to learn NO lessons? how would we ever innovate, if any single failure results in throwing the whole system away?

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Why shouldn't he? Many people work with pain but now the system is so easy many are choosing not to.
    Can you quantify that statement for me? "Many people" work with "pain". What percentage? What type of pain? What is the etiology? How long have they had the pain and what is the prognosis? The "system is so easy". Compared to what? Give us valid comparative data.

    "Many are choosing not to". Who are the "many"?

    "Many" is a comparative. For your statement to be valid you'd have to have comparative data, otherwise you're statement would be meaningless and invalid, not factual.










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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    **** you, handouts are killing this country and penalizing every working American
    So you don't support providing for disabled veterans and their families?










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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Damn, can't even back up what you say.....next
    Poor dodge- YOU brought your 'friend' imaginary or otherwise, into the conversation... I asked you to define the vague whine terms you used. You mutter and decline to refine.

    Reagan loosened the rules for disability back in 1984, the Senate was Republican controlled. The Social Security Disability Reform Act, partly because a severe crack down was seen as an over stepping Government- sound familiar??? What more needs to said about that?

    According to the SSA claim approval rate tripled from 1984 to 2008. the 'skyrocketing' has been going on for decades. The chart shows a steady climb throughout this period no matter who was in the Oval Office or which party controlled which part of Congress.

    The question isn't did your imaginary friend get over, it is are the claim approval rates 'skyrocketing'? In the 24 years after Reagan era reform the approval rate tripled...

    Seems the Right Wing Ranters are leaning far into the barrel for this whine...

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Some can't, some won't
    How about not assume the worst of people you don't know?
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Can you quantify that statement for me? "Many people" work with "pain". What percentage? What type of pain? What is the etiology? How long have they had the pain and what is the prognosis? The "system is so easy". Compared to what? Give us valid comparative data.

    "Many are choosing not to". Who are the "many"?

    "Many" is a comparative. For your statement to be valid you'd have to have comparative data, otherwise you're statement would be meaningless and invalid, not factual.
    I don't have to have data, I qualify for disability but I don't take it, many more I know don't as well. One would have live in a damn bubble not to be seeing the abuse of this program.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    How about not assume the worst of people you don't know?
    How about not assuming everyone that is on it should be?

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    How about not assuming everyone that is on it should be?
    There is a lengthy vetting process for getting on this, it is safer to assume that if someone is on it, they need it.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

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    There is a lengthy vetting process for getting on this, it is safer to assume that if someone is on it, they need it.
    Not when you see them fishing and enjoying themselves while working. And it does not take much time anymore to get on it.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Not when you see them fishing and enjoying themselves while working. And it does not take much time anymore to get on it.
    It took almost 2 years for my dad to get on it.
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