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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    We all need it, many of us choose to work for it even with back pain, headaches, etc. I have lived and worked with severe back pain for 28 years now, when it rains I almost cry but I do not expect a handout because I have pain.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

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    Mags, often EVEN IN A GOOD ECONOMY it is difficult for people with disabilities to find work, meaningful or otherwise. People don't hire the handicapped as a general rule. When people who are disabled do find work they are often underemployed and will remain underemployed. When the fit hits the shan disabled people are among the first to get the ax. Against the law? Sure, but it is dead simple to fire someone with a disability for non-disability reasons.

    In this economy it is likely that Star's father would have a difficult time finding work. That's fact.

    Do you recommend Star's sister get a job at McDonalds or Burger King or Walmart?
    Why shouldn't he? Many people work with pain but now the system is so easy many are choosing not to.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

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    Horse****.
    **** you, handouts are killing this country and penalizing every working American

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    He was talking about preparing for retirement. Yes, most people know that in roughly 35 years they may be entering a time when they need to retire. We have an enormously expensive social insurance just for this issue, are you saying people aren't aware of it? Maybe they should spend 1% of that SS money to educate the public, run Saturday morning awareness in between cartoons so the kids who know their **** can then tell their parents what they saw on TV....

    In all seriousness, people avoid saving and long-term planning because it's their choice. We should absolutely train them better, but then you'd have to reform our massively expensive public education system and you know who runs that show, and it's not the evil-conservobots.
    The majority of the individuals that are of that 55 year age grew up with their parents getting pensions and had every reasonable expectation to have pensions themselves. Yes...if you're 30 years of age or less you don't expect a pension to retire on.

    I find it hard to fault the folks decades ago who worked with different expectations and a different reality.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Mags, often EVEN IN A GOOD ECONOMY it is difficult for people with disabilities to find work, meaningful or otherwise. People don't hire the handicapped as a general rule. When people who are disabled do find work they are often underemployed and will remain underemployed. When the fit hits the shan disabled people are among the first to get the ax. Against the law? Sure, but it is dead simple to fire someone with a disability for non-disability reasons.

    In this economy it is likely that Star's father would have a difficult time finding work. That's fact.

    Do you recommend Star's sister get a job at McDonalds or Burger King or Walmart?
    I'm not going to talk specifically about Star, for God's sake. I know nothing about her. As to where her sister should get a job? Gimme a break.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The majority of the individuals that are of that 55 year age grew up with their parents getting pensions and had every reasonable expectation to have pensions themselves. Yes...if you're 30 years of age or less you don't expect a pension to retire on.

    I find it hard to fault the folks decades ago who worked with different expectations and a different reality.
    The writing was on the wall for the last 3 decades unless you lived in a bubble

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The majority of the individuals that are of that 55 year age grew up with their parents getting pensions and had every reasonable expectation to have pensions themselves. Yes...if you're 30 years of age or less you don't expect a pension to retire on. I find it hard to fault the folks decades ago who worked with different expectations and a different reality.
    Why have so many public jobs not handed over their pensions and learned that hard lesson too? Oh yes, they can force me to pay for it.

    If you prohibit society from learning and getting feedback, you destroy it. Yes we should help mitigate the worst, and certainly help foster the best. But you have to do it with the understanding the individual responsibility must come first, and that includes negative feedback from personal choices. Everyone hates tough love, if parents who dearly love their children more than life itself and offer tough love, I think liberals can manage.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Why have so many public jobs not handed over their pensions and learned that hard lesson too? Oh yes, they can force me to pay for it.

    If you prohibit society from learning and getting feedback, you destroy it. Yes we should help mitigate the worst, and certainly help foster the best. But you have to do it with the understanding the individual responsibility must come first, and that includes negative feedback from personal choices. Everyone hates tough love, if parents who dearly love their children more than life itself and offer tough love, I think liberals can manage.
    Liberals? Actually I would argue that a lot of those folks going onto disability roles are middle aged white men in red states (generally more dependent on manual labor).

    We're not talking individual responsibility we're talking about large scale shifts in what is expected of employers and labor.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    We all need it, many of us choose to work for it even with back pain, headaches, etc. I have lived and worked with severe back pain for 28 years now, when it rains I almost cry but I do not expect a handout because I have pain.
    Good for you, some people can't work through it even if they want too.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Good for you, some people can't work through it even if they want too.
    Some can't, some won't

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