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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

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    And what about the people who are ACTUALLY disabled. My dad is, and we get hardly any money from his check, and my sister is turning 18 in a few weeks, and we are losing the 800 bucks that we would get from her as a dependent. Which sucks because now we have to get help from family to be able to eat. And we're too "rich" for food stamps apparently, living on this is just real ****ty.
    I don't know who you are...how old you are...whether or not you work...whether or not your dad can work...whether or not your 18-year-old sister is planning on living at home, getting a job and paying room and board. Whether YOU pay room and board. Whether your dad can work a part-time job as many disabled can.

    Don't ask me, "What about us," unless you're ready to share the nitty gritty. I'd also like to know what's so bad about getting help from family when one's in a bind? You'd rather it be strangers??
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know who you are...how old you are...whether or not you work...whether or not your dad can work...whether or not your 18-year-old sister is planning on living at home, getting a job and paying room and board. Whether YOU pay room and board. Whether your dad can work a part-time job as many disabled can.

    Don't ask me, "What about us," unless you're ready to share the nitty gritty. I'd also like to know what's so bad about getting help from family when one's in a bind? You'd rather it be strangers??
    And I don't think you should assume the worst when most people who are on it really need it.

    And our families aren't rich either. Hate to burden them.
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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    OK Soot, I gave the book chapter you posted a read. While the research compared the first few years of 2000 to the previous 2 decades and thus can't be directly applied to the present, they do make some valid points that remain as valid today as they did 10 years ago. The increase in disability compensation over the last several decades can be attributed in part to women becoming a significant part of the workforce, Boomers, the economy, increase in longevity, general longterm commitment to the acquisition and maintenance of material goods and of course lazy bastards.

    As the authors report significantly more people over 45 years old apply for disability benefits than people under 45. At present we have a ballooning demographic segment over 50/55 and thus according to the authors of the article we should expect more people applying for disability. Makes sense.

    But all of the above doesn't account for or answer the issue of disability benefit increase or abuse. Sadly, some people are always going to game the system. The percentage of abusers could be reduced, perhaps significantly, by increasing the minimum wage. I agree.

    Most people want to work and earn a living wage. Every time I call for customer support regarding anything I end up talking to someone in Manila or Mumbai. As long as American companies stab the American workforce in the back and extend America's virtual borders far, far overseas we are going to have employable Americans out of work. It's time to raise minimum wage and end outsourcing overseas. Those two things would greatly reduce future percentages of those receiving disability benefits. There's also national healthcare, but that's a can of worms I don't want to get into at the present.










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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm going to school, that's my plan. The families plan is to get into a house with a lower payment by the end of summer. Seriously, stop judging, I'm just saying that there are people who really need this stuff, and it's not all party hats, and hand jobs.
    I wasn't judging, just observing. It's been my experience that dependence on the whim of others usually ends badly.

    When you lose the leash, the parties and hand jobs can be as often as you chose them to be.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Still can't rebut the facts, I see. Like clockwork.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes...they are sooo stupid for not seeing economic trends 35 or so years ahead of time.

    I hope you're making billions with all the foresight you take for granted. I work with some brilliant well compensated people and they don't claim the ability to predict economic trends that far in advance.
    We are all responsible for our future retirements, at least we used to be. And it doesn't take billions

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes...they are sooo stupid for not seeing economic trends 35 or so years ahead of time. I hope you're making billions with all the foresight you take for granted. I work with some brilliant well compensated people and they don't claim the ability to predict economic trends that far in advance.
    He was talking about preparing for retirement. Yes, most people know that in roughly 35 years they may be entering a time when they need to retire. We have an enormously expensive social insurance just for this issue, are you saying people aren't aware of it? Maybe they should spend 1% of that SS money to educate the public, run Saturday morning awareness in between cartoons so the kids who know their **** can then tell their parents what they saw on TV....

    In all seriousness, people avoid saving and long-term planning because it's their choice. We should absolutely train them better, but then you'd have to reform our massively expensive public education system and you know who runs that show, and it's not the evil-conservobots.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm going to school, that's my plan. The families plan is to get into a house with a lower payment by the end of summer. Seriously, stop judging, I'm just saying that there are people who really need this stuff, and it's not all party hats, and hand jobs.
    We all need it, many of us choose to work for it even with back pain, headaches, etc. I have lived and worked with severe back pain for 28 years now, when it rains I almost cry but I do not expect a handout because I have pain.

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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know who you are...how old you are...whether or not you work...whether or not your dad can work...whether or not your 18-year-old sister is planning on living at home, getting a job and paying room and board. Whether YOU pay room and board. Whether your dad can work a part-time job as many disabled can.

    Don't ask me, "What about us," unless you're ready to share the nitty gritty. I'd also like to know what's so bad about getting help from family when one's in a bind? You'd rather it be strangers??
    Mags, often EVEN IN A GOOD ECONOMY it is difficult for people with disabilities to find work, meaningful or otherwise. People don't hire the handicapped as a general rule. When people who are disabled do find work they are often underemployed and will remain underemployed. When the fit hits the shan disabled people are among the first to get the ax. Against the law? Sure, but it is dead simple to fire someone with a disability for non-disability reasons.

    In this economy it is likely that Star's father would have a difficult time finding work. That's fact.

    Do you recommend Star's sister get a job at McDonalds or Burger King or Walmart?










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    Re: The Disability Scam: A Great Government Freebie

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    He was talking about preparing for retirement. Yes, most people know that in roughly 35 years they may be entering a time when they need to retire. We have an enormously expensive social insurance just for this issue, are you saying people aren't aware of it? Maybe they should spend 1% of that SS money to educate the public, run Saturday morning awareness in between cartoons so the kids who know their **** can then tell their parents what they saw on TV....

    In all seriousness, people avoid saving and long-term planning because it's their choice. We should absolutely train them better, but then you'd have to reform our massively expensive public education system and you know who runs that show, and it's not the evil-conservobots.
    You would also have to retrain people how credit card usage, adult toys, and keeping up with the Jones's.

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