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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    BS, let the marketplace work its magic...
    You clearly do not seem to understand how the milk market subsidy program is set up. The marketplace will not "work its magic" because the farm bill is amnesty if you will from a more draconian system that has been established in law in the 1940's but is not in practice today. It would be illegal to sell unprocessed milk to anybody other than the government.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Id rather have that for a short amount of time while congress goes back to the drawing board rather than have a bill pass the lasts 'x' amount of time. Should not pass a farm bill that puts the rich over the middle and working class and a bill that punishes struggling Americans. That is just not fair.
    Fairs never have bacon, but are known to have pigs. I will never understand it.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Because you won't be able to get the milk to begin with. There is no structure in place to revert to to distribute the milk as would happen if the program is not extended.
    So? If the product in question is too expensive on the market if left to it's own devices there is no argument to be made it should be permitted to survive.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It isn't what the price is supposed to be--it is what the price will become due to shortages. The price we pay now is an inflated price. If something is not passed, we revert to a law from the 40's that requires all milk to be sold to and bought from the government but we have no mechanism in place to do that anymore.
    Which is why the government should stay out of the market.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    Which is why the government should stay out of the market.
    Perhaps, but they would also have to repeal the legislation from the 1940's to keep it from biting consumers in the arse.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Dem Socialist does realize we have increased food stamp spending over 50% since 2001?

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    I wish they would cut farm subsidies completely so these free loading farmers could see what they are really worth

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    What is not fair is spending more than your revenue. I will applaud any and all cuts until we get a handle on our spending problem.

    To DemSocialist's point however I would rather see cuts in government than in assistance if it is really necessary.
    Actually I don't view food stamps or farm subsidies as the role of government in the first place. The took care of farm bill. Now on to the food stamps.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: House rejects farm bill, 195-234 - The Hill's Floor Action
    Good! Cutting food assistance to the needy is not the way to go! Austerity does not work! I applaud this being defeated! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the majority of those on the Republican side who voted against the bill oppose farm subsidies in principle and most of them also wanted deeper cuts in food stamps. This actually is a victory for austerity, if it stands.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: House rejects farm bill, 195-234

    The bill also still keeps the sugar program,not to mention not doing enough on direct payments. Boehner is a fool. Hopefully,this gives him pause on immigration. If he could not pass a freaking farm bill,where most people don't give a crap,how is he going to push a "comprehensive immigration reform"bill?

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