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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    It worked that time, and I can see the issue. I think ballot access should be allowed based on registered voters, not party voters...
    But only the party voters are allowed to sign the petition. Despite the fact the Libertarian candidate got over 100,000 votes in last years senate election, only about 25,000 people are eligible to sign the ticket. The libertarian party obviously has a fairly good swath of support in Arizona, but they would be very unlikely to be able to get the one out of every 5 party members necessary to sign the petition to get ballot access. Luckily, as the link says, it is very possible this law will be struck down.
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

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    But only the party voters are allowed to sign the petition. Despite the fact the Libertarian candidate got over 100,000 votes in last years senate election, only about 25,000 people are eligible to sign the ticket. The libertarian party obviously has a fairly good swath of support in Arizona, but they would be very unlikely to be able to get the one out of every 5 party members necessary to sign the petition to get ballot access. Luckily, as the link says, it is very possible this law will be struck down.
    Why would it be very unlikely? Are you suggesting that libertarians are lazy voters, generally not interested or easily distracted, fair weather participants? I'd be inclined to think that they would be more active, more interested, and all weather participants - that's why they went out of their way to become members of the Libertarian Party.
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    But only the party voters are allowed to sign the petition. Despite the fact the Libertarian candidate got over 100,000 votes in last years senate election, only about 25,000 people are eligible to sign the ticket. The libertarian party obviously has a fairly good swath of support in Arizona, but they would be very unlikely to be able to get the one out of every 5 party members necessary to sign the petition to get ballot access. Luckily, as the link says, it is very possible this law will be struck down.
    I think we're agreeing, but the sticking point comes when deciding primary candidates...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    This sort of thing I believe Arizonans should oppose. But laying it solely at the feet of republicans isn't quite accurate. Current political makeup of the AZ legislature:

    Senate: 17 Republicans, 13 Democrats
    House of Representatives: 36 Republicans, 24 Democrats

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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Why would it be very unlikely? Are you suggesting that libertarians are lazy voters, generally not interested or easily distracted, fair weather participants? I'd be inclined to think that they would be more active, more interested, and all weather participants - that's why they went out of their way to become members of the Libertarian Party.
    Not more than any other party. It is just really hard to get more than 20% of your statewide members to sign a petition, especially when you need to have a good deal more than that, because many will be invalidated. Rick Santorum needed just 4,500 Republican signatures to get on the Indiana ballot last year, of which there are more than a million members, and was unable to do so.
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    I fully believe Gary Johnson was a far better choice than Obama and Romney.
    Not really. Gary Johnson had kooky beliefs as did Romney. Gary Johnson's people also swindled money from his campaign to their own companies. This also happens with the Ron Paul campaign. I mean if these people cannot even pick good campaign managers I shudder at the thought of what they would do to this country! It would end up worse than Barack Obama's Chicago mob style rule.
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post

    1. Who brought up Ron Paul? Did I endorse him? No. Quality straw man on your part.

    2. Perhaps previously in certain instances, but you're making a blatant generalization.
    1. It's not a straw man, it's an example! I can use Ron Paul as much as I want especially for how often he was thrown in my face whenever I mentioned the word Romney online!
    2. Ok, then name me a third party candidate, I'm sure I can find something fraudulent or kooky about them. This is going to be easy
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Not really. Gary Johnson had kooky beliefs as did Romney. Gary Johnson's people also swindled money from his campaign to their own companies. This also happens with the Ron Paul campaign. I mean if these people cannot even pick good campaign managers I shudder at the thought of what they would do to this country! It would end up worse than Barack Obama's Chicago mob style rule.
    How is any of that any different then the crooks we have now?

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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    How is any of that any different then the crooks we have now?
    That's my point.
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    Re: Republicans pull a fast one on voters

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Basically wipes out? Do you have a link to the bill so we can see what it actually does?
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/1r/bills/hb2305c.pdf
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