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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Immediate laws (with real enforcement) against hiring illegal labor should be more of an issue than future plans for border control. Most illegals are not jumping any fence, they simply enter as tourists, shoppers or students and then stay here. I agree that much better border control is needed, but that is much less effective while maintaining the economic magnet of a steady employment opportunity, little chance of deportation and coupled with automatic birthright citizenship for any offspring.
    Yes. That is what is almost totally lost in this debate. Many of those here are overstays,either on work or student visa's(which I actually am a supporter of both). Until we have a better way,and some results with regards to this issue I can't get behind what the "gang"is doing.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    Yeah try making people ration food gas and make sacrifices. Wont happen.



    Who said that it would?

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Senators plan to introduce a 'Border Surge' plan that would double the size of the Border Patrol and ensure that 700 miles of fencing is finished on the Southern border.

    Read more here: Immigration deal would double size of Border Patrol - Manu Raju and Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com


    I just want to add that every sovereign country on this planet has the right to guard its borders against unwelcome intrusions and control access to its territory.

    This should have been done a long time ago.

    I totally support this idea and anyone who knows me, knows that I am not anti-immigrant. My wife is an immigrant (She didn't sneak across the border.).



    "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
    There's already a law (since 2006) requiring the 700 mile of fence. only 35 miles have been built and gaps in that have been mandated by the Secretary of the Interior as necessary for deer crossings. What will be different this time?

    I'll answer my own question. Nothing, except we get legalization once again just as in 1986 without solving the problem...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    What do you think of all of the "Cornhusker Kickback" type pay-offs being demanded by the several Senators on both sides of the aisle from Reid before ensuring their vote on immigration?
    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    There's already a law (since 2006) requiring the 700 mile of fence. only 35 miles have been built and gaps in that have been mandated by the Secretary of the Interior as necessary for deer crossings. What will be different this time?

    I'll answer my own question. Nothing, except we get legalization once again just as in 1986 without solving the problem...

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What do you think of all of the "Cornhusker Kickback" type pay-offs being demanded by the several Senators on both sides of the aisle from Reid before ensuring their vote on immigration?
    It simply means the bill is a stinker...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Just what we need. More unionized government employees.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    I'll be enjoying the petition from Bachmann and her 70-member team aimed at Boehner that comes out tomorrow on immigration.

    You may not remember me predicting before the election the advent of a more regionalized Congress, with dual-party and multi-wing "gangs" as they're called? The gun bill showed this.

    So how do we insure the number of "guest" workers needed in this Country, especially in the Southern states?

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    It simply means the bill is a stinker...

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Passing legislation that provides needed funds makes it at least a little more likely, eh?
    Not necessarily.

    Frankly, the fence is a waste of time and more for political grandstanding than anything else. It's one of those "feel good" measures that allows government to say to the voter "Look, we did something!" and then, in a year or two, they pull the manpower saying that the fence is sufficient and they'll save us money while the smugglers just bridge the fence like they do now.

    The key to border security is and always will be manpower combined with a solid, enforceable, trackable guest worker law. If you make it easy for people to come here legally, work and go home then the only people you need to worry about on the remote border are the bad guys.

    My personal preference would be for a sponsored guest worker program combined with employer verification and strict enforcement of immigration policy. You don't get to bring your family here with you if you're just coming to work and if you plan on staying then you start that process before you come here and you complete it in two years or less. If you're coming here for an education then you stay in school and maintain a respectable GPA. If you can't handle that then you go home. If you're here already you'd better get sponsored and do things the right way because if you get caught before you're legit you're going home and you're family is going with you.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Polgara, I see you. Tell me again please how your relatives feel about what the Repubs have done to them with the Post Office pension scandal.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    It simply means the bill is a stinker...
    Greetings, AP.

    : When the general public, and the various unions and other groups with any clout insist upon being exempted, why can't the administration accept that this is NOT wanted in its current form? The untruths about Obamacare are starting to emerge more and more every day, and BHO still doesn't get it? Why not? He is supposed to be a smart man, so what's the problem? When Baucus calls it a "trainwreck," and he knows more about it than most people, what is the public supposed to think... the worst is yet to come? Unfortunately, that is probably true!

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