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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Your house is walls with locked doors and windows, does your house keep you in or others out?
    It can do both.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    No a wall serves both functions at the same time. They are identical.

    Also the wall is to keep us in.
    The wall is only to help force use of the doors, which are more easily controlled.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    It can do both.
    Really? Tell us about the time you were a prisoner in your own house.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The wall is only to help force use of the doors, which are more easily controlled.
    The wall is proposed by a group that wants to control us. The far right want to Institute Christian Sharia law. They want to keep us in our place.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    The wall is proposed by a group that wants to control us. The far right want to Institute Christian Sharia law. They want to keep us in our place.
    Are you kidding me? The right fears U.S. folks fleeing to the wonderful life awaiting us in Mexico?
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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Who would you prefer as border gaurds? Uzbekistan gaurds? They are perfect if you don't mind the use of excessive brute force.



    You obviously have a problem.

    I suggest that you deal with it.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? The right fears U.S. folks fleeing to the wonderful life awaiting us in Mexico?
    They wish to control. One aspect is keeping us here.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    As my friends here know, my opinion regarding the "illegal immigration" is rare and "extreme": Basically, I consider it an imaginary problem in perpetual search of nasty and expensive solutions.

    Having said that, a physical barrier on the border does not offend my sensibilities. After all, criminals, human traffickers, and just plain infectious diseases are beneficiaries of poorly guarded borders as well.

    But is anyone going to do cost-effectiveness analysis? Let's say per every billion spent on the Great Fence, we "apprehend" - or prevent from even trying to enter - a thousand migrant workers who would contribute to our economy, a dozen thugs who would subtract from it, and one hapless dude carrying the latest fashionable coronavirus.

    Was it worth the sacrifice? How do we calculate these things?

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Fences are largely a waste of time and money. They are no real deterrent for those wanting to cross. Imagine putting a 15' fence around a briefcase with $10M inside. Once people found out what was there how long do you think it would take before someone circumvented that fence? I doubt it would take 15 minutes. My point is a fence really wont stop anyone from crossing that wants to cross unless you have that fence manned and then it is the man and not the fence that works. Fences are just a token show of effort to stop illegal crossings and little more.

    The real solution is to remove the incentive for any seeking to cross illegally. We should remove all public services/aid to anyone with illegal status. Remove birthright citizenship of children who have parents with illegal status. A National E-verify system that can compare fingerprints or photos to validate ID and their legal status. And most importantly we should deport every single illegal immigrant found in our country. If we continue to ignore those which are here as we have for the last 30+ years then nothing is going to work as effectively as it should.

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    Re: Immigration Deal Would double size of Border Patrol And Finish 700 miles of Fence

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The gov will be in charge of this fence and ten years is wildly optimistic. The last time we tried to build one much of it was tied up in court and still is over environmentalist law suits.



    The right legislation can avoid problems like that.

    Think back to WWII

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