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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Their needs to be some safe guards against selling the phone since I don't think they should pull the program just yet . Why is everyone upset with Obama the people who sell the phones are the criminals the people who give advice on how to put it in the IRS are also at blame . I think Obama is facing to many scandals to even dare do something like that anyway , presidents are knowledgeable on how to present themselves.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Obviously to prevent massive fraud and abuse it wasn't necessary to expand this program to cellphones when a land line will do just fine to setup a job interview.



    Right the fact is you called blacks and hispanics "leeches to society"

    Why would you make such a racist statement



    What does his race have to do with this? Your obsession with race is disturbing and you're dangerously close to derailing this thread with your histrionics



    Wait are you excusing and rationalizing this fraud? You're going to sit there on your house of cards, roll your eyes, and excuse outright theft from hard working Americans because you don't like Republicans? Save the Republican vs Democrat Bush blaming for someone who cares about that. I don't.

    I don't really care what your opinion of O'Keefe is. Doesn't change the video where clearly outright fraud and abuse is shown to be rampant in this program.
    O'Keefe has posted numerous videos of things that didn't happen.

    Its his thing.

    Making it look like terrible things are happening, when they really aren't.

    So your source has cried wolf WAY too many times.

    If he came up to me bleeding from an artery i'd assume it was special effects and keep right on walking.

    Lyin' sack of ****.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    So, why are they called Obamaphones? The term came from Obama supporters, NOT the opposition (though they were quick to pick it up).

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Snopes splits some pretty fine hairs in order to rate that as false. I call bull****. And Obama didn't call for any sort of reduction until the election was over.
    So what fact do they get in error?
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not even close. But I know it's important to believe that.
    So a bill to subsidize phones passed under Reagan and expanded to cell phones under Bush is called an "Obamaphone".....

    Makes sense to me!
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Unbelievable

    Obama has been President for 4 years and supervised the explosion in costs to this Program and you're still blaming Bush and the Republicans. Democrats controlled Congress in 2008. Not Republicans. You ARE aware of this right? Secondly your nonsensical gibberish about your knowledge of the drug world is not helping your position. These phones are being paid for by taxpayers. The money is added onto their cellphone bills.
    Greetings, Bronson!

    Excellent post! Why has it become necessary for some to make the truth so elusive?

    Never mind, the question was rhetorical...I know the answer!

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Attack the source because you can't refute the facts

    2.2B in 2012 alone
    Your source had never produced an honest piece.

    Every single one has been deceptively edited to appear to show things that never happened.

    So rejecting everything a known liar presents isn't rejecting a source, its refusing to believe what a known liar says.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So let's look at the facts, and conservative logic:

    Program instituted before Obama takes office, but it is Obama's fault. Claim made that government is giving out phones, when they do not. This is Obama's fault. Cost of the program goes up due to poor decision in expanding it, this is Obama's fault even though he was not involved in it. Government money has to be spent to find out why costs are exploding and how to fix it. This is Obama's fault. More government money has to be spent to implement cost saving measures. Complain about Obama's spending.
    You're not presenting facts. You're engaging in laughable hyperbole and obfuscation.

    I don't blame Obama for adding wireless phones to the Lifeline Program. I blame RINOS like Bush and the Democrats who controlled Congress at the time. That however doesn't excuse the explosion in costs that have happened under Obama's watch. Obama is the President who had direct supervision over the how this program was implemented. Not Bush. 3 months is nothing compared to 4+ years and you know it. What this shows is a pattern under Obama. Rampant waste, fraud and abuse of welfare programs under his watch. Food Stamps. Unemployment. Lifeline. All exploding in costs under his supervision. Trying to blame Bush for the Lifeline costs is like trying to blame FDR for the exploding costs in Food Stamps under Obama. It's obfuscation and emotional reasoning.

    2.2B in costs in 2012. That's not real reform. Claiming "well it didn't cost 2.5B so hey we reformed it" is NOT reform.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    3 months before Obama took office. The massive expansion of this program has occurred under his supervision.

    Yes definitely Obama's fault when he's had 4+ years to get it right. The program has skyrocketed to 2B+ in 2012 under his watch.

    Bingo! 3 months before he took office....


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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what fact do they get in error?
    The rank stupidity they used when they claimed that it wasn't paid for by other users. Either stupidity or complicity. Also they thoroughly ignored any understanding of the "loss leader" (free phone) and who pays for that. Snopes does not always get it right and they have their own share of interpretive bias.

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