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    re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    First just how are 'hard working Americans' getting ripped off?

    Next it is fun to watch you bemoan crony corporate fat cats when so many think the rich work very hard for their money and deserve their profits.

    Then you seem incapable of realizing any program that is expanded, this one by BushII, would have an exponential increase in cost- guess you and BushII have the same grasp of how these things work.

    I do know how much drugs you can get for these phones...little to none. If you had a real phone like a smartphone you might get 20 bucks worth of dope....might.

    I have seen these phones, the trac and virgin ones, both are super simplistic the best retail example is the Best Buy ATT 'Go Phones' that retail for 8 bucks. Tracphone sells it's phone for 14 bucks retail at Dollar General.
    You're all over the map with these comically embarrassing responses

    First you're dropping knowledge on what you can get for these phones, now you're claiming ignorance. Make up your mind. These phones are subsidized by people who work and pay their bills. Those are just the facts. The expansion of this program and it's implementation has happened under Obama's watch. 2.2B in 2012 is not "reducing costs and instituting reforms"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I realize that facts are a rough thing to handle for you, but I presented facts, including the snopes link(which documents everything it said), and the document detailing the reformns to the program. Notice that you and Bronson have documented...well, pretty much nothing and have not been able to offer one single fact to counter anything I have said. Facts: cryptonite to conservatives.
    The expansion of this program and it's implementation has happened under Obama's watch. 2.2B in 2012 is not "reducing costs and instituting reforms".

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    re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Services like foodstamps, bus passes, or similar, could be pretty decently protected by requiring an ID to redeem. If only that person can use it, it has no real value for trade.

    As for the phones, I don't know why our government needs to be handing out free phones to people.
    AS has been documented in this thread, the government is not handing out phones to any one. Just because some one says something is true, does not mean it is.
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    re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Obama is the President who has overseen implementation of this program. Not Bush. Obama. You even admit this. The abuse of this program is happening now. Not 4+ years ago. Right now.

    You've even admitted that Obama "instituted reforms that cut costs". If that's the case, then why did the program explode in costs in 2012? That's 4 years later. An excuse like "Things take time" doesn't cut it. Food stamps have exploded in costs under Obama's watch too. Which past President's fault is that?
    The costs exploded, then reforms where implemented. You can't blame it on Obama when his only action was to reform the program to cut costs. Now, I documented this, you might want to check dates. You have had major difficulties with facts, and especially dates in this thread.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You're all over the map with these comically embarrassing responses

    First you're dropping knowledge on what you can get for these phones, now you're claiming ignorance. Make up your mind. These phones are subsidized by people who work and pay their bills. Those are just the facts. The expansion of this program and it's implementation has happened under Obama's watch. 2.2B in 2012 is not "reducing costs and instituting reforms"



    The expansion of this program and it's implementation has happened under Obama's watch. 2.2B in 2012 is not "reducing costs and instituting reforms".
    So you are back to making **** up. Well done! It is clear you have no interest in facts.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The costs exploded, then reforms where implemented. You can't blame it on Obama when his only action was to reform the program to cut costs. Now, I documented this, you might want to check dates. You have had major difficulties with facts, and especially dates in this thread.
    The only person who is having difficulty with facts in this thread is you. You're trying to claim Obama "reformed" the program when it's entire implementation has happened under his watch. When the costs of this program have increased by 12 times under his watch at a cost of 2.2B a year to taxpayers.

    It's sad and pathetic that you have to resort to these kind of petty little attacks because you are unable to actually debate the issue. Bush served 20 days in 2009. Big woop. We both know his last serving year as President was 2008. Now why don't you tell us all why we should blame past presidents for Obama's skyrocketing food stamp costs as well. Apparently in your world Obama doesn't govern, doesn't supervise and any waste, fraud and abuse that happens under his watch is someone else's fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you are back to making **** up. Well done! It is clear you have no interest in facts.
    Are you kidding me right now? in 3 months how many free cellphones did Bush hand out to people. Give me a number.

    Let's compare. 3 months of expansion under Bush compared to 4+ years under Obama.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    AS has been documented in this thread, the government is not handing out phones to any one. Just because some one says something is true, does not mean it is.
    I can't seem to copy paste from Snopes, but in the explanation at the bottom it states that the program doesn't specify that they have to provide free phones for the money, just that they have to offer cheaper services to the poor. It continues to say that some cell phone companies do offer free phones for Lifeliners.

    Therefore, yes, people are getting free cell phones because the government is paying off cell phone companies to do so.

    I don't care who started it. Obama is president and it's still in effect. I blame him and his predecessors for it.

    You don't need a phone to live. People lived many thousands of years without it.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    When do we see the unedited video where O'Keefe was passing out money to people to say these things?

    O'Leefe hasn't posted a truthful video yet, why start now.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    When do we see the unedited video where O'Keefe was passing out money to people to say these things?

    O'Leefe hasn't posted a truthful video yet, why start now.
    Attack the source because you can't refute the facts

    2.2B in 2012 alone

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    snopes.com: Free 'ObamaPhones' for Welfare Recipients

    The government does not supply free phones.
    It was not expanded by Obama.
    Obama implemented a review and reform to reduce the cost of the program.
    OP is a bunch of lies.
    Snopes splits some pretty fine hairs in order to rate that as false. I call bull****. And Obama didn't call for any sort of reduction until the election was over.

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