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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Says the guy starting an OP baswd on a video from master liar O'Keefe.
    What did O'Keefe lie about

    Was it the part where the guy in the video says " I don't judge" as he is willing to hand over a phone at someone else's expense so they can buy heroin?

    You're attacking the messenger because you can't debate the facts

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...

    O'Keefe may spin right, but there ar so many more that spin faster and harder to the left.
    Got some blatantly deceptive liberal videos of O'Keefe's genre?

    That the left trumpets as proof of their agenda?

    Both sides spin.

    O'Keefe is a liar, there is a difference.

    When you edit together a question with a response to another, that's a lie, not spin.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What did O'Keefe lie about

    Was it the part where the guy in the video says " I don't judge" as he is willing to hand over a phone at someone else's expense so they can buy heroin?

    You're attacking the messenger because you can't debate the facts
    O'Keefe generally lies by ommission. Or editing.

    We've been debating the facts of the program.

    Judging from his track record of blatant deceit, a discerning person must reject the contents of the video. Must assume its staged or deceptively edited.

    Because that is all O'Keefe does.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    O'Keefe generally lies by ommission. Or editing.

    We've been debating the facts of the program.

    Judging from his track record of blatant deceit, a discerning person must reject the contents of the video. Must assume its staged or deceptively edited.

    Because that is all O'Keefe does.
    There is no track record of blatant deceit. I understand Daily Kos told you that, but that doesn't make it true. You keep bleeting the same talking point so consider this the last response.

    O'Keefe didn't make the people in that video push phones on people after they were told those phones would be used to buy heroin. You can whine, stomp your feet and call O'Keefe a liar all you want. Doesn't change the FACTS.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    There is no track record of blatant deceit. I understand Daily Kos told you that, but that doesn't make it true. You keep bleeting the same talking point so consider this the last response.

    O'Keefe didn't make the people in that video push phones on people after they were told those phones would be used to buy heroin. You can whine, stomp your feet and call O'Keefe a liar all you want. Doesn't change the FACTS.
    You have no proof whatsoever that the whole thing wasn't staged.

    Sorry.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    There is no track record of blatant deceit. I understand Daily Kos told you that, but that doesn't make it true. You keep bleeting the same talking point so consider this the last response.

    O'Keefe didn't make the people in that video push phones on people after they were told those phones would be used to buy heroin. You can whine, stomp your feet and call O'Keefe a liar all you want. Doesn't change the FACTS.
    How do you feel about The Blaze?

    Does Raw Video of NPR Expose Reveal Questionable Editing & Tactics? | TheBlaze.com

    And here's the wikipedia entry with.lots more tasty links:

    James O'Keefe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I rest my case.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    You have no proof whatsoever that the whole thing wasn't staged.

    Sorry.
    And you have none that it was.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I will admit my memory is not flawless, but I don't appreciate that what you are doing, is effectively calling me a liar.
    You madfe a claim, repeated the claim even after admitting you could not find any evidence it was true. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...
    Politicians make unfulfilled campaign promises all the time. They also promise things they already know will happen, and take credit for them if they are elected.
    Which is kinda irrelevant to anything.
    Did Obama take credit for getting us out of Iraq, or did he say that Bush got us out by sugning the SOFA in 2008.
    Obama did get us out of Iraq. He was under no requirement to do so, he did what he said he would do. Was the process already in the works? Sure. Does that mean Obama did not finish it? Nope. This is the problem: if Obama had negotiated a new agreement with Iraq(and negotiations did happen), you would have bitched he broke his campaign promise. Instead, Obama did what he said he would, and you bitch about him claiming success in keeping his campaign promise. This is how you marginalize yourself: if you are going to complain no matter what, who cares what you think?

    Think about that.
    I have, maybe you should.

    I'm rather certain, that while campaigning, Obama also said he would make cell phone usage free for the poor. My point is he did not do it since it was already law passed during the Bush administration. Since then, he hasn't tried to claim it like he claimed on getting us out of Iraq, but both have equal merit.
    And there we go. You keep repeating the same point that you can't prove, then complain when people point out you can't prove it.

    Do you follow my point?
    Understanding you is not hard. You want to complain, and if you don't have anything to complain about, you will make it up.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And you have none that it was.
    No.

    I just have multiple prior examples of deliberate deception on his part.

    I reserve the right to dismiss accusations and evidence from a source that has used deceptive evidence to support false accusations.

    The proof is right there for the eye to see.

    Even The Blaze sees it.

    Don't get mad at me because your source has impeached HIMSELF repeatedly.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Did the right give credit to Obama for following the SAME timeline of Bush in getting out of Iraq? No, they didn't. Think about that.
    You don't get it.

    It was already the law between our two nations. For him not to have pulled the troops out by that timeline could effectively be considered declaring war, against the new Iraq.

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