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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you agree I was right. Well done. Since his point was about money supply and debt, the fact it is not government money is important in relation to his point.
    And Obamacare wasn't a tax before it was a tax. Working Americans are going to be forced to buy Health Insurance, (whether they want to or not much like they are being forced to fund this scam if they pay for a cellphone) but don't worry everyone. Redress says it isn't a tax, so nothing to see here.

    It must be exhausting for you jumping through all these hoops trying to play these laughably petty semantic games. How embarrassing.

    The fact is hard working Americans are funding this nonsense by added costs on their cellphone bills. They are getting robbed and you could care less. You want to pretend to be Bill Clinton and play word games. It's a joke.

    Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ.com

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.
    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Shush.

    O'Keefe said it, they believe it, that settles it.
    What did O'Keefe say? Who has claimed O'Keefe said anything?

    From the article. We can go by what people who are pushing these phones have said.

    Once you guys give me this phone, it's my phone?' he asked an employee inside a Philadelphia brick-and-mortal Stand Up Wireless location. 'I can, like, sell it and stuff?'

    'Whatever you want to do with it,' the worker replied.

    'So I'm [going to] get some money for heroin,' he offered.

    The employee coolly responded, 'Hey, I don't judge.'
    And my personal favorite

    It's kind of like, the first thing that I do is this here,' the TerraCom rep responded, referring to the required paperwork. 'And unfortunately there are people on drugs. They get this phone, and they go get $40. ... You basically do whatever you want to do with it. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, legalize is a pain at best, and part of why I said "where practical".

    There are some important distinctions between a fee and a tax. Most importantly, what is paid for by the fee is not added to the deficit, and by extension the debt.

    Also, good news: deficit as a percent of GDP(which is the most meaningful measure of deficit) is coming down.
    True about the deficit - however money out of the pocket of working people to fund such a program is money out of the pocket of those working for it to supply a commodity for those who can't or don't. There's no animosity directed at those who can't work, but there could be some directed at those who don't work. I think that's understandable. That the deficit has come down as a percentage of GDP is good news. I note that GDP is an anemic 2.4%, and the sequester has contributed to that drop, as well.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    But the program already went way out of control under Obama. And "fewer people able to get on" means that folks are still "getting on". And abusing the system in horrendous ways. As proven.

    Your nonsense was just proved wrong Redress. Wasn't hard to do either.
    You have not read the thread, have you? The program was greatly expanded in 2008. Nothing Obama did expanded nor caused it to go out of control. When the program cost skyrocketed due to the expansion in 2008, the FCC reformed the program to cut costs.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey liberals. How come every time Obama "reforms" something, we end up paying through the nose, while more folks are added to the parasite list ?

    Maybe I need a definition update. Just WTF does "reform" mean in liberal-speak ?
    It specifically refers to your numerated wealth, and how it may be reduced. Okay, I made that up, but we're making all kinds of stuff up these days anyway. I read the other day that Arianna Huffington explained to a group of college graduates recently that we're going to have to re-define success into something more realistically achievable.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    And Obamacare wasn't a tax before it was a tax. Working Americans are going to be forced to buy Health Insurance, (whether they want to or not much like they are being forced to fund this scam if they pay for a cellphone) but don't worry everyone. Redress says it isn't a tax, so nothing to see here.

    It must be exhausting for you jumping through all these hoops trying to play these laughably petty semantic games. How embarrassing.

    The fact is hard working Americans are funding this nonsense by added costs on their cellphone bills. They are getting robbed and you could care less. You want to pretend to be Bill Clinton and play word games. It's a joke.

    Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ.com





    What did O'Keefe say? Who has claimed O'Keefe said anything?

    From the article. We can go by what people who are pushing these phones have said.



    And my personal favorite
    And how many people told O'Keefes shills to go **** themselves?

    How many called the cops?

    Eventually it will be known, but you'll only remember what he presented in his video.

    Just like ACORN and Planned Parenthood.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You have not read the thread, have you? The program was greatly expanded in 2008. Nothing Obama did expanded nor caused it to go out of control. When the program cost skyrocketed due to the expansion in 2008, the FCC reformed the program to cut costs.
    Blah blah blah ........ Oh really ? But the program is still FUBAR !!

    "Obama did this. Obama did that". Yet it is still ****ed up beyond all recognition !!

    Did you get your "Obamaphone" ? Or did you get your "Bushphone" ?

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And how many people told O'Keefes shills to go **** themselves?

    How many called the cops?

    Eventually it will be known, but you'll only remember what he presented in his video.

    Just like ACORN and Planned Parenthood.
    How much corruption does it take to end a program?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    How much corruption does it take to end a program?
    More than fake videos.

    Some proveable, measurable amount.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    More than fake videos.

    Some proveable, measurable amount.
    When has that ever been an accepted standard ?

    The track record says the exact opposite. If it secures folks to the gubmit teat, it ain't going away so long as the liberal have political clout to keep it.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And how many people told O'Keefes shills to go **** themselves?

    How many called the cops?

    Eventually it will be known, but you'll only remember what he presented in his video.

    Just like ACORN and Planned Parenthood.
    So you can't refute facts and have been reduced to speculation and lies

    Got it

    When you have a response with some actual facts and substance, instead of assumptions and dishonesty, let me know

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