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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, I am claiming I recognize bad books.
    And precisely how would you know that? Are you reading actual legislation, or are you reading the governmental summary of that legislation - because your claiming superior sources. If it's a summary, then I believe a summary is valid if offered by sources other than the government. If you're reading actual legislation then you're one up on Congress. Maybe you should run. Otherwise you should demonstrate the superiority of your sources. To say the government is a superior source is to say that Mr. Clapper was telling the truth a few months ago.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Thanks, ocean. All the therapists I've had so far have all been pleasant, but firm! I understand that I need to do those exercises, but walking and kicking and swinging a hurt leg in circles wasn't something I ever planned on doing to while away a few hours a day....If looks could kill, those sadistic visitors from another solar system would be dead!
    I've said the same thing as well. Walking is a big deal, as I have learned. Later, you're gonna like those sadists - after you've healed.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    And precisely how would you know that? Are you reading actual legislation, or are you reading the governmental summary of that legislation - because your claiming superior sources. If it's a summary, then I believe a summary is valid if offered by sources other than the government. If you're reading actual legislation then you're one up on Congress. Maybe you should run. Otherwise you should demonstrate the superiority of your sources. To say the government is a superior source is to say that Mr. Clapper was telling the truth a few months ago.
    Depends on the situation what I read. I prefer in most cases to read the actual law, but that is not always practical. I also tend to read court rulings, sources within sources, and expert commentary(see: SCOTUSblog for example). I try to avoid blogs, editorials and things of that nature.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Thanks, ocean. All the therapists I've had so far have all been pleasant, but firm! I understand that I need to do those exercises, but walking and kicking and swinging a hurt leg in circles wasn't something I ever planned on doing to while away a few hours a day....If looks could kill, those sadistic visitors from another solar system would be dead!
    I know PRECISELY what you are talking about!


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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    Eric Holder refuses to press any charges against big banks or lending agencies over the mortgage crisis, and you're worried about Obamaphones???
    See, that's what gets me. If there's one scandal, it's the Obama Administration continuing to give banks a free pass. No one has paid for the damage done in 2008, and little has been done since to protect any of us from the same type of financial collapse.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Depends on the situation what I read. I prefer in most cases to read the actual law, but that is not always practical. I also tend to read court rulings, sources within sources, and expert commentary(see: SCOTUSblog for example). I try to avoid blogs, editorials and things of that nature.
    I honestly don't understand the legalese employed in much legislation. Let me get to the point, here though. Many posting here are upset with the rapid increase in federal spending - primarily on social welfare programs that are blossoming at an alarming rate. I my experience there hasn't been a program of that nature started which hasn't evolved into something far, far more extensive and costly than originally intended. That a "user fee" is attached to each cell phone bill really boils down to a tax - even though it technically isn't, the effect is the same. I think you'll find that at the bottom of it all, most believe everybody should try to pay a little for such a service, and that's the gripe with all such programs of this nature you're hearing from many of us. It doesn't matter exactly who started the program. It matters what that program has become and how we intend to pay for these things. Borrowing ever more money isn't going to cut it.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Hey liberals. How come every time Obama "reforms" something, we end up paying through the nose, while more folks are added to the parasite list ?

    Maybe I need a definition update. Just WTF does "reform" mean in liberal-speak ?

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I honestly don't understand the legalese employed in much legislation. Let me get to the point, here though. Many posting here are upset with the rapid increase in federal spending - primarily on social welfare programs that are blossoming at an alarming rate. I my experience there hasn't been a program of that nature started which hasn't evolved into something far, far more extensive and costly than originally intended. That a "user fee" is attached to each cell phone bill really boils down to a tax - even though it technically isn't, the effect is the same. I think you'll find that at the bottom of it all, most believe everybody should try to pay a little for such a service, and that's the gripe with all such programs of this nature you're hearing from many of us. It doesn't matter exactly who started the program. It matters what that program has become and how we intend to pay for these things. Borrowing ever more money isn't going to cut it.
    Yes, legalize is a pain at best, and part of why I said "where practical".

    There are some important distinctions between a fee and a tax. Most importantly, what is paid for by the fee is not added to the deficit, and by extension the debt.

    Also, good news: deficit as a percent of GDP(which is the most meaningful measure of deficit) is coming down.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey liberals. How come every time Obama "reforms" something, we end up paying through the nose, while more folks are added to the parasite list ?

    Maybe I need a definition update. Just WTF does "reform" mean in liberal-speak ?
    In this case, reform is cutting the cost and fewer people are able to get on the program.

    Oh wait, that just proved your nonsense wrong...
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    In this case, reform is cutting the cost and fewer people are able to get on the program.

    Oh wait, that just proved your nonsense wrong...
    But the program already went way out of control under Obama. And "fewer people able to get on" means that folks are still "getting on". And abusing the system in horrendous ways. As proven.

    Your nonsense was just proved wrong Redress. Wasn't hard to do either.

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