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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's a tax writeoff, so yes, it comes from the government. That'd be like if you owed me $20, and I said to just buy me a $20 DVD and we'd be cool. So whose money bought the DVD? That $20 was owed to me, therefore it was my money that bought it.


    Hand ups? I have no idea what that is. Are you saying you like giving money to the rich?



    Then why can't it be made out to the company AND the person? Why are you so furiously against preventing people from selling their benefits? Are you even offering a solution or just saying "It's impossible"?
    How does a company show ID? How does a company shop for that matter? And the person? He/she cannot, are not able, to be present for an ID. Really you just don't think things through past step one do you? Seems a tic tac toe perspective in a Othello or Pente or GoMoKu reality, to be sure. IE not terribly useful and worthy.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    How does a company show ID? How does a company shop for that matter? And the person? He/she cannot, are not able, to be present for an ID. Really you just don't think things through past step one do you? Seems a tic tac toe perspective in a Othello or Pente or GoMoKu reality, to be sure. IE not terribly useful and worthy.
    Ok, so you're either are too lazy to come up with your own solution, or have absolutely no problem with people selling or trading their handouts.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Ok, so you're either are too lazy to come up with your own solution, or have absolutely no problem with people selling or trading their handouts.
    I think the solution will cost more than the problem, considering the percentage of offenders.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because we are in the 21st century now... where cellphones outnumber normal phones?



    Not projecting anything... facts are facts.



    Yea and it is convenient that the facts happen to be around the rights second most hated ethnicity... the Latino...
    Because nothing is allowed to be said about either blacks or Latinos unless its about how racist and oppressive whites are against them..... right??? #Protectedstatus

    Notice he didn't even make it about race. You did. There are already plenty of things that show poor whites as being gun-touting, bible-thumping hillbillies by the same people who would pull the race card on something like this. Mind boggling.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I think the solution will cost more than the problem, considering the percentage of offenders.
    There's not much cost to the implementation. The old and sick could possibly get exemptions if they can prove it. Printing someone's name on a welfare check, and requiring that ID be shown to redeem, is not expensive.

    It would definitely be a lot less than throwing massive subsidies at massive corporations.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I guess what I'm missing is how people eligible for the program becoming aware they are eligible is waste/fraud/abuse.

    As of 2010 there were measures being instituted to combat actual waste/fraud/abuse.

    Come on ramen, you're smarter than that.

    They FCC took two years to implement those "measures", putting them into place in 2012. This fact is documented in their own press releases.

    My gripe has more to do with the way government agencies take simple programs and jack them into multi-billion dollar boondoggles rife with fraud and abuse. Don't you think by now they should expect it?

    According to the FCC, they saved over $200 million last year by requiring people to requalify for the program. $200 million? In one year? If memory serves me right, that was something like 25-30% of the program!

    That's rediculous. How much longer do people expect to be rewarded with this kind of stuff?

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    There's not much cost to the implementation. The old and sick could possibly get exemptions if they can prove it. Printing someone's name on a welfare check, and requiring that ID be shown to redeem, is not expensive.

    It would definitely be a lot less than throwing massive subsidies at massive corporations.
    Geez, you really are uninformed. Welfare isn't in checks anymore, it's on a debit type card and a PIN is required to use it. Exactly like a debit card. It's good enough for banks but not you?
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    1. No where does it actually show any of these people receiving phones. They actually only receive applications.

    2. Typical dishonesty coming from these people.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's a tax writeoff, so yes, it comes from the government. That'd be like if you owed me $20, and I said to just buy me a $20 DVD and we'd be cool. So whose money bought the DVD? That $20 was owed to me, therefore it was my money that bought it.


    Hand ups? I have no idea what that is. Are you saying you like giving money to the rich?



    Then why can't it be made out to the company AND the person? Why are you so furiously against preventing people from selling their benefits? Are you even offering a solution or just saying "It's impossible"?
    Not sure what you mean.

    "Hand up" is a generic term for social.programs that help people out of poverty. As opposed to "hand outs" which is just giving **** away.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    More importantly, how do you get a hold of your crack dealer!
    All poor people are drug addicts.

    Not.

    Keep the meme alive!
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