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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    How many cellphones were handed out under Bush in 3 months

    Just give me a ballpark figure. Take a guess.
    Just read that the first year cellphones were added the costs were $819 million.

    So about half that money you're crying about WAS authorized by Bush.

    And the monthy fee for the Lifeline program is about $2.50, and covers a slew of other programs besides "obamaphones". Like rural service, school phones, etc.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Another baseless attack on Obama? This never get's old. *Rolls eyes*
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Awsome spin ramen. No, that wasn't it, but it was a good try.

    I guess the former chief of staff to Holings, and the former senior aide to Daschle should have done a better job promoting their reform so it wouldn't have taken so long to take off.
    Actually it's not much spin.

    Crazy For "Obama Phones" - But Are They For Real? - Forbes

    From top to bottom the "Obamaphone" delio is just plain wrong.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually it's not much spin.

    Crazy For "Obama Phones" - But Are They For Real? - Forbes

    From top to bottom the "Obamaphone" delio is just plain wrong.

    Who was pushing the program in Ohio, for example?

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yet another example of expanding entitlements, nannies and freebies. We are firmly entrenched in an entitlement, nanny and freebie society. 17 Trillion in debt and adding 1 trillion a year to pay for it all.
    How much tax money was spent again?
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Unbelievable

    Obama has been President for 4 years and supervised the explosion in costs to this Program and you're still blaming Bush and the Republicans. Democrats controlled Congress in 2008. Not Republicans. You ARE aware of this right? Secondly your nonsensical gibberish about your knowledge of the drug world is not helping your position. These phones are being paid for by taxpayers. The money is added onto their cellphone bills.
    Laughing, and to hear the Willard for President committee spin it, 47% of all Americans don't pay taxes BUT all non lifeline cell phone owners pay the user fee that supports the low cost cell phone program, so you may want to chose your words a tad more carefully!

    You are aware that at anytime the Republicans wanted to kill a program they can in the Senate.

    Oh but my knowledge of the drug world is very helpful. If you think a drug dealer gives anything close to fair market value for the goods brought him in trade then you are going to be very unhappy first time you need to pawn something. I also know what those phones are really worth because I have seen and comparison shopped them- it's called doing my own research instead of relying on a propagandist's highly edited drivel- like I asked and you ignored- I wonder how much tape had to be edited out from all the salesmen just saying get lost or if you think so...

    Now the partisan all or nothing mentality- I never said it is BushII's 'fault' YOU are the one attempting to blame someone. I merely point out the BushII administration did the leg work on the program, set the parameters that are so lacking in oversight and accountability, just like Iraq and Afghanistan, and the way to fund the program. They chose to greenlight the expansion of lifeline to include cell phones.

    Now when President Obama took office there was a little thing called the economy in a tailspin going on so excuse him if the priority was somewhere else.

    But I realize the right wing needs to make everything like microwave popcorn... here and now to hell with how things are really run, and who set the hot mess in motion...

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Laughing, and to hear the Willard for President committee spin it, 47% of all Americans don't pay taxes BUT all non lifeline cell phone owners pay the user fee that supports the low cost cell phone program, so you may want to chose your words a tad more carefully!

    You are aware that at anytime the Republicans wanted to kill a program they can in the Senate.

    Oh but my knowledge of the drug world is very helpful. If you think a drug dealer gives anything close to fair market value for the goods brought him in trade then you are going to be very unhappy first time you need to pawn something. I also know what those phones are really worth because I have seen and comparison shopped them- it's called doing my own research instead of relying on a propagandist's highly edited drivel- like I asked and you ignored- I wonder how much tape had to be edited out from all the salesmen just saying get lost or if you think so...

    Now the partisan all or nothing mentality- I never said it is BushII's 'fault' YOU are the one attempting to blame someone. I merely point out the BushII administration did the leg work on the program, set the parameters that are so lacking in oversight and accountability, just like Iraq and Afghanistan, and the way to fund the program. They chose to greenlight the expansion of lifeline to include cell phones.

    Now when President Obama took office there was a little thing called the economy in a tailspin going on so excuse him if the priority was somewhere else.

    But I realize the right wing needs to make everything like microwave popcorn... here and now to hell with how things are really run, and who set the hot mess in motion...
    Over and over again we see those on the right get all up in arms when they see smoke.

    Then when it turns out it was not a real fire, they choose to remember that they saw smoke, and not that somebody just threw a smoke bomb.

    Its why we have two versions of recent history.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Who was pushing the program in Ohio, for example?
    Read the article. It's not a Federal program. It was expanded under Bush but is instituted on a state by state basis. 38 of 50 states subsidize cell phones.
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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Laughing, and to hear the Willard for President committee spin it, 47% of all Americans don't pay taxes BUT all non lifeline cell phone owners pay the user fee that supports the low cost cell phone program, so you may want to chose your words a tad more carefully!

    You are aware that at anytime the Republicans wanted to kill a program they can in the Senate.

    Oh but my knowledge of the drug world is very helpful. If you think a drug dealer gives anything close to fair market value for the goods brought him in trade then you are going to be very unhappy first time you need to pawn something. I also know what those phones are really worth because I have seen and comparison shopped them- it's called doing my own research instead of relying on a propagandist's highly edited drivel- like I asked and you ignored- I wonder how much tape had to be edited out from all the salesmen just saying get lost or if you think so...

    Now the partisan all or nothing mentality- I never said it is BushII's 'fault' YOU are the one attempting to blame someone. I merely point out the BushII administration did the leg work on the program, set the parameters that are so lacking in oversight and accountability, just like Iraq and Afghanistan, and the way to fund the program. They chose to greenlight the expansion of lifeline to include cell phones.

    Now when President Obama took office there was a little thing called the economy in a tailspin going on so excuse him if the priority was somewhere else.

    But I realize the right wing needs to make everything like microwave popcorn... here and now to hell with how things are really run, and who set the hot mess in motion...
    Who set the hot mess in motion?

    In the 2008 FCC action that added cellphones, and specifically allowed TracFone to be part of the program, FCC Commissioner Deborah Tate cautioned in her comments that the program needed to have appropriate checks and balances in place to deal with fraud and abuse. Commissioner Tate was replaced by President Obama after he took office.

    Further, for the first time, in 2009, 20010, and 20011, the following was released by President Obama's FCC:

    FCC Headlines 2009

    9/14/09
    FCC Supports "National Lifeline and Link Up Telephone Discount Awareness Week" - September 14 - 20, 2009.
    News Release: Word | Acrobat

    FCC SUPPORTS “NATIONAL LIFELINE AND LINK UP TELEPHONE DISCOUNT AWARENESS WEEK” - SEPTEMBER 14 – 20, 2009

    FCC Headlines 2010

    9/13/10
    FCC Observes "National Lifeline And Link Up Telephone Discount Awareness Week" - September 13-19, 2010.
    News Release: Word | Acrobat

    FCC OBSERVES “NATIONAL LIFELINE AND LINK UP TELEPHONE DISCOUNT AWARENESS WEEK” - SEPTEMBER 13 – 19, 2010


    You get the idea right?

    Promoted, big time.

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    Re: Obamaphones Being Sold For Drugs, Shoes Ect. (Video)[W:33]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Read the article. It's not a Federal program. It was expanded under Bush but is instituted on a state by state basis. 38 of 50 states subsidize cell phones.


    Is that where we are now?

    Dang, now that is a duck and cover of rather remarkable proportions.

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