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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Actually, I was incorrect, or at least incomplete. It is only a synonym for target when legalities and circumstances allow.
    What are you even talking about now?


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well saying there are many kinds of socialism they all have one thing in common workers owning the means of production.




    Dear god your very very close minded.
    Workers will never own means of production. Costumers always own the means of production and distribution.

    No, not closed minded, just focused on enough other things that this minor item is really not worth the mental effort to concern myself with. While it would be nice to know everything about everything, well, we have limited time and mental resources, so we have to prioritize.
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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Workers will never own means of production. Costumers always own the means of production and distribution.

    No... The bosses, the management own the means of production bud.


    No, not closed minded, just focused on enough other things that this minor item is really not worth the mental effort to concern myself with. While it would be nice to know everything about everything, well, we have limited time and mental resources, so we have to prioritize.
    Of course it is. So much so your "not concerned about it" that you keep on responding and continuing this conversation.


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    No... The bosses, the management own the means of production bud.




    Of course it is. So much so your "not concerned about it" that you keep on responding and continuing this conversation.
    The management/owners/etc only own it when they have customers willing to buy their products. No customers, no company to own, no company to work for.

    So, I'm taking a rest break from working on the lawn mower atm, it's hot outside, and I get a bit of entertainment from this.
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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The management/owners/etc only own it when they have customers willing to buy their products. No customers, no company to own, no company to work for.
    Non-sense.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    Non-sense.
    Name a single company that exists without customers?
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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Name a single company that exists without customers?
    No customer owns anything in the company.

    I need a car so I guess I can just go down to any company jump in my car and drive off huh?

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    No customer owns anything in the company.

    I need a car so I guess I can just go down to any company jump in my car and drive off huh?
    What are you some kind of socialist
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Supposedly somehow in fantasy land amongst the right we are turning into a "socialist" country, then apparently we are going to become a stateless, classless society... This people are ****ing insane.
    Hearing this from a DemSocialist so puts me at ease! Thanks, Comrade, for your reassurance!

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by blaxshep View Post
    No customer owns anything in the company.

    I need a car so I guess I can just go down to any company jump in my car and drive off huh?
    The customer controls and owns the whole process.

    No, you can't, you have to buy it. Otherwise you are not paying the workers who built it. They are workers, not your slaves.

    If a company builds cars, but no customer buys them, then that company will cease to exist. Profit is often the motivation of a company, but satisfying the desires of the customer is the controlling factor behind whether profit is made, or even how much profit is made.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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