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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    What world do you live in? Who bankrolls politicians? Who donates and runs the campaigns? SUPER PACS... Who are Super PACS ran by mostly? Corporations. But you talk about personhood a lot here. But remember corporations are people now too ya know...
    No they arent.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    American liberals aren't socialists and they could barely ever pass as social democrats
    Liberals want redistribution of wealth and central economy control. That by definition, makes them socialists. So are conservatives to a lesser degree.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Liberals want redistribution of wealth and central economy control. That by definition, makes them socialists. So are conservatives to a lesser degree.
    So a false premise supports your false definition.

    I think we have libertarianism in action here folks.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Supposedly somehow in fantasy land amongst the right we are turning into a "socialist" country, then apparently we are going to become a stateless, classless society... This people are ****ing insane. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    We already are Socialist/Fascist under Obama

    NSA/IRS targeting Americans for their beliefs. Crony Capitalism rampant throughout WA with crooked deals like Brightsource and Solyndra.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    We already are Socialist/Fascist under Obama
    Socialism and fascism are total contradicting ideas. You cant be both at once...


    NSA/IRS targeting Americans for their beliefs.
    Thats been happening for a while not just under Obama..

    Crony Capitalism rampant throughout WA with crooked deals like Brightsource and Solyndra.
    This has also been happening for a very very long time. Isnt something new with Obama.. And isnt socialism since its called crony CAPITALISM.


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No they arent.
    Yes they are!
    Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Of course the left will now attack him. I guess that's because of all the examples of Obama expanding personal freedom and fighting against government taking rights and control from the individual.
    We are "attacking" him because of Obama? What? Or are we "attacking" him because he is a complete moron? Im gonna go with the latter.


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Socialism and fascism are total contradicting ideas. You cant be both at once...
    They are both Left Wing Collectivist Ideologies. Mussolini's roots were deeply rooted in Marxism. He felt Fascism, which is Socialism funded with hand picked corporations and crony capitalism, was a more efficient system. He felt that Marx had it wrong with his ideas on class struggle and felt he had improved upon the concept. The Nazis were Socialists as well who emulated Mussolini's Fascist system of Socialist Government.

    Thats been happening for a while not just under Obama..
    I'm not interested in blaming the distractions of Left/Right paradigms for the Fascism we're living in under Obama. The IRS purposely targeted Americans whose political views were not aligned with Obama's regime. The NSA is targeting and collecting all of our communications under Obama. The IRS had to ask people what their beliefs were during harassment and intimidation. They had to ask for database passwords and a list of what the members of these groups believed. The NSA doesn't need to ask. They just spy on you.

    Right now Obama Supporters are in defense mode because they've been conditioned and brainwashed into always finding an excuse to shield their Hope and Change Messiah from any blame and accountability. That's really what these forums have been reduced to. The US Government sprinting towards Fascism under Obama and his supporters running around trying to put out fires, trying to label people who dissent from the Obama Hope and Change narrative as a myriad of horrible things we're supposed to denounce to polarize(racist ect) and blaming another corrupt fraud who hasn't been in office for more than 4 years.

    This has also been happening for a very very long time. Isnt something new with Obama.. And isnt socialism since its called crony CAPITALISM.
    Socialism always has to be funded and subsidized with the limited resources available. Fascism is Socialism and Socialism is Socialism. People have been easily brainwashed because Hitler banned all opposition, including communism, but only because the Nazis felt their brand of Socialism was far superior to that of a Jew like Marx who himself was a racist.

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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    They are both Left Wing Collectivist Ideologies. Mussolini's roots were deeply rooted in Marxism. He felt Fascism, which is Socialism funded with hand picked corporations and crony capitalism, was a more efficient system. He felt that Marx had it wrong with his ideas on class struggle and felt he had improved upon the concept. The Nazis were Socialists as well who emulated Mussolini's Fascist system of Socialist Government.
    No... Not even close.. No.. Just no.
    You can not have a "fascist system" and socialism. Both are internally conflicting ideologies. Just because you have a "collectivist" system of government, trying to unite people under a single ideology and system does not make one a socialist. They were a corporatist economic system.

    I'm not interested in blaming the distractions of Left/Right paradigms for the Fascism we're living in under Obama. The IRS purposely targeted Americans whose political views were not aligned with Obama's regime.
    C'mon man. This little "scandal" is failing by the days go by...
    IRS chief: Agency also screened liberal groups | Politics | The Seattle Times
    IRS Targeted Progressive Groups, Too, Documents Reveal
    We can call anyone a "fascist" simply because they disagree with x, y, or z's political views. But in fact the only thing they share is that we are also a corporatist economy to an extent.

    The NSA is targeting and collecting all of our communications under Obama. The IRS had to ask people what their beliefs were during harassment and intimidation. They had to ask for database passwords and a list of what the members of these groups believed. The NSA doesn't need to ask. They just spy on you.
    Ok.. Still does not make on a "fascist". Simply means we are living in a surveillance state.


    Socialism always has to be funded and subsidized with the limited resources available. Fascism is Socialism and Socialism is Socialism. People have been easily brainwashed because Hitler banned all opposition, including communism, but only because the Nazis felt their brand of Socialism was far superior to that of a Jew like Marx who himself was a racist.


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    Re: Herman Cain says U.S. headed ‘towards socialism and towards communism’

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No they arent.
    Remember according to you they dont have "power" 6 Mind-Blowing Stats on How 1 Percent of the 1 Percent Now Dominate Our Elections | Mother Jones


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