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Darrell Issa's IRS Investigation Is Falling Apart

trfjr said:
means motive and opportunity makes Obama a suspect. and you would be a fool as an investigator to not label Obama as a suspect till you have evidence saying other wise, and there is no evidence to prove Obama is not involved
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There goes "innocent until proven guilty" under the wingnut bus

Mean, motive and opportunity make Issa an arsonist
 
windowdressing said:
ah, now I understand ... guilty until proven innocent ... you're in the wrong country I'm afraid ... time to change your flag avatar ...
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Don't you know the difference with being a suspect and being guilty? Do you not know how investigations work? you use means motive and opportunity to create a list of suspects then you gather evidence to either eliminate add to or keep on the list till you narrow it down
 
trfjr said:
Don't you know the difference with being a suspect and being guilty? Do you not know how investigations work? you use means motive and opportunity to create a list of suspects then you gather evidence to either eliminate add to or keep on the list till you narrow it down
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So just keep skipping over that last step!! :lamo
 
sangha said:
When you post the date OJ was convicted for murder
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this will go down as one of my all-time favorite posts ... thank you ... I'm now headed to my son's high school graduation with an even bigger smile on my face ... take care ...
 
pbrauer said:
Thank God you are not part of the criminal justice system. You would investigate yourself for corruption. Allow me to let you in on a little secret: In this country you are innocent until proven guilty.
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and another one who doesn't know the difference between being a suspect and being guilty.
 
trfjr said:
Don't you know the difference with being a suspect and being guilty? Do you not know how investigations work? you use means motive and opportunity to create a list of suspects then you gather evidence to either eliminate add to or keep on the list till you narrow it down
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what are you babbling about? go back and read your post and then you'll know what I was responding to ... good luck (BTW, your flag is upside down) ...
 
trfjr said:
and another one who doesn't know the difference between being a suspect and being guilty.
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I know it takes much more than motive and opportunity to make one a suspect.
 
head of joaquin said:
Pssst: not only is there no suspect, but no crime.

You've been watching too much NCIS.

Issa did commit arson and grand theft auto, that's true. Maybe you're referring to that?
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read the hatch act and also read the 2nd article of impeachment made against Nixon

every day i have to come to these forums and educate the mis and uninformed. i should start charging tuition
 
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sangha said:
So just keep skipping over that last step!! :lamo
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and what do you think the investigation is doing it is gathering evidence and so far there has not been any that implicates the WH yet but there hasn't been any to not make them a suspect either
 
trfjr said:
and what do you think the investigation is doing it is gathering evidence and so far there has not been any that implicates the WH yet but there hasn't been any to not make them a suspect either
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Yes, gathering evidence and hiding it

Obviously, Issa is guilty of something.

Lock him up!!
 
sangha said:
Yes, gathering evidence and hiding it

Obviously, Issa is guilty of something.

Lock him up!!
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you don't release evidence in the middle of an investigation. you put the witnesses in jeopardy you taint the testimony of witnesses that have yet to be questioned and you give a heads up to the suspects

Issa and Cummings are both guilty of doing just that and they are wrong for doing so
 
66gardeners said:
Funny how Issa refuses to release the entire transcripts of his interviews with witnesses. When Elijah Cummings released additional partial transcripts and implored Issa to release the entire transcripts, Issa cried fowl. Issa is a fool and all Obama has to do is stand there to make him look worse.
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What's funny is how this right wing machine will not stop trying to discredit one of the greatest administrations the world and universe has ever seen. Transarent, patriotic, and honest are hallmarks of Obama's life and character and the right are downright fools to attack that...its like looking for a needle in a haystack, or counting every grain of sand in the sahara. You just can't do it
, not possible, not even close. Hope and change forever. Bot to Bot. Peace
 
sangha said:
Well, that explains why Arson Issa has been releasing evidence in the middle of his investigation! :lamo
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and so did Cummings so it is a wash both should be pulled from involvement in the investigation

but would like to add Cumming lied about what he released so definitely he should be pulled
 
trfjr said:
and so did Cummings so it is a wash both should be pulled from involvement in the investigation

but would like to add Cumming lied about what he released so definitely he should be pulled
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What did Rep. Elijah Cummings lie about?
 
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trfjr said:
and so did Cummings so it is a wash both should be pulled from involvement in the investigation

but would like to add Cumming lied about what he released so definitely he should be pulled
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Which is why this sham "investigation" is a joke
 
pbrauer said:
What did Rep. Elijah Cummings lie about?
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this is what Cummings claimed the manerger said

"This Republican manager said there was no White House involvement, no political involvement, none of that. He made the decision doing the best he could to have some kind of consistency."

and this is actually what the manager said

The IRS manager, who was not named by the committee, said, “I am not aware of that,” when asked directly about a political bias or political motivations behind the targeting of conservative groups. And he said he had “no reason to believe” that the White House was involved in the decision to target conservatives.

big difference between "there was no White House involvement" and "no reason to believe" or "no political involvement" and "I am not aware of that”
 
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trfjr said:
this is what Cummings claimed the manerger said

"This Republican manager said there was no White House involvement, no political involvement, none of that. He made the decision doing the best he could to have some kind of consistency."

and this is actually what the manager said

The IRS manager, who was not named by the committee, said, “I am not aware of that,” when asked directly about a political bias or political motivations behind the targeting of conservative groups. And he said he had “no reason to believe” that the White House was involved in the decision to target conservatives.
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That is even pettier than the poutrage about how Obama called the Benghazi attack an "act of terror" and not an "act of terrorism"

Psst - they mean the same thing
 
pbrauer said:
What did Rep. Elijah Cummings lie about?
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Well, apparently the "manager" Cummings is referring to is said to have asked their Technical Unit in DC how to handle an initial Tea Party request in 2010.
Did Cummings mention that?
A lie of omission? Yes?
 
Awesome! said:
What's funny is how this right wing machine will not stop trying to discredit one of the greatest administrations the world and universe has ever seen. Transarent, patriotic, and honest are hallmarks of Obama's life and character and the right are downright fools to attack that...its like looking for a needle in a haystack, or counting every grain of sand in the sahara. You just can't do it
, not possible, not even close. Hope and change forever. Bot to Bot. Peace
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You've got to admit, republicans make it easy.
 
bubbabgone said:
Well, apparently the "manager" Cummings is referring to is said to have asked their Technical Unit in DC how to handle an initial Tea Party request in 2010.
Did Cummings mention that?
A lie of omission? Yes?
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When was this and to whom?
 
trfjr said:
you don't release evidence in the middle of an investigation. you put the witnesses in jeopardy you taint the testimony of witnesses that have yet to be questioned and you give a heads up to the suspects

Issa and Cummings are both guilty of doing just that and they are wrong for doing so
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You also don't announce the verdict of the investigation before you make it. Issa is VERY guilty of that.
 
sangha said:
That is even pettier than the poutrage about how Obama called the Benghazi attack an "act of terror" and not an "act of terrorism"

Psst - they mean the same thing
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“Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts…No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

big difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack" a tornado could be called a act of terror but would you call a tornado a terrorist attack?
and if Obama said it was a terrorist attack why did he for weeks afterwards say we don't know who it was that attacked the compound when asked if it was terrorist
 
trfjr said:
“Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts…No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

big difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack" a tornado could be called a act of terror but would you call a tornado a terrorist attack?
and if Obama said it was a terrorist attack why did he for weeks afterwards say we don't know who it was that attacked the compound when asked if it was terrorist
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Like I said....petty
 
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